windows 7 disk partition: "reserved system space"

I love that W7 has partition adjustment features, and they're very easy to use.
I'm trying to shrink my C partition more than it wants to let me;  from Diskeeper the disk "map" indicates that there's a small chunk of  "reserved system space" that's at the top, and more than 2/3 of the disk is free below it.  Evidently Diskeeper cannot move that chunk in order to make all the used portions more contiguous.
Is there a way to move this little chunk down, so then the top portion is "unused" and W7 disk mgmt can then shrink the partition?

thanks
willsherwoodAsked:
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willsherwoodConnect With a Mentor Author Commented:
i've subsequently determined that it is an expansion area for the MFT.
Since the disk is largely empty, this expansion area is not used.
How can i move this unused expansion area to be lower in the address space.
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teedo757Connect With a Mentor Commented:
Probably not. There are some files on your hard drive that have to do with the drive itself or core parts of the os that just cannot be moved. Its best to do the partitioning before your load the OS.
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JohnConnect With a Mentor Business Consultant (Owner)Commented:
That partition is set up by Windows 7 for its base functions. I would just leave it place as it sould be quite small. It is not a good idea to remove it. .. ... Thinkpads_User
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teedo757Commented:
It may possibly be virtual memory(pagefile)....you could try turning that off

# Open Control Panel -> System and Maintenance -> System.
# In the left “Tasks”, click on Advanced System Settings.
# You should come to “Advanced” tab. In “Performance” section, click on Settings button.
# Click on Advanced tab.
# In the “Virtual Memory” section, click on Change button.
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willsherwoodAuthor Commented:
thanks all - some clarifications...

unfortunately the partition size was a mistake/oversight at build time.
I was able to shrink it significantly already, but there's this island still sticking there that is  "in the way".

I'm not looking to delete it:   Sorry i wasn't clear, i want to move this chunk "lower" in the address space so that the upper address spaced is UNUSED and thus W7 will allow me to SHRINK the partition.
it's not a "partition" but rather a chunk of content (sectors) within the C: partition

this isn't the pagefile,  the pagefile  is much larger and in another location on disk (lower in the address space)
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I use Perfect Disk on my Windows 7 machines and it defrags that partition if I want it to. I don't know about Diskeeper. ... Thinkpads_User
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willsherwoodAuthor Commented:
will PerfectDisk move reserved system space at boot time?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I don't know if it will move it, but it will defrag it. .... Thinkpads_User
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willsherwoodAuthor Commented:
(defrag is no problem, it's quite tight/contiguous except for this one small chunk)
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Here is a solution from Microsoft Answers to move that partition. Be careful as it may not fit your situation.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/moving-the-system-reserved-partition-in-windows-7/cc8476b7-2162-4136-a0ea-20ee45b8013a

I have never tried this myself. ... Thinkpads_User
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willsherwoodAuthor Commented:
i think the confusion is that my situation is not a separate partition.
It's a small (contiguous) area WITHIN the C partition  that is orphaned way out at the end of the partition.
I just want to move that chunk of content (whatever it is) down to be closer so the high end of the address space will be unused and thus W7 can shrink the partition size.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Perfect Disk does have the ability to do an offline defragmentation (defrag before booting). That may help you.
... Thinkpads_User
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I think (not certain) that an offline boot defrag might do that.  ... Thinkpads_User
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/pm-personal/ Here they have weekend sale. Get a copy of partitioning tool and resize your partitions the way you want them. The problem of this chunk will not prevent you from doing it.
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willsherwoodAuthor Commented:
thanks to you all for your comments.
this issue became convoluted, and i've tried the several suggestions, and it's not worth going in to the details.
the reserved system space eventually disappeared on its own (it was an overflow area);  and there still exists an island of user files stuck at the top of the address space.
This is not a defragmentation issue, it's just where one large (user) file has its place in the sector address space.
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