preferred backup/restore tool/methods?

What's your preferred backup/restore tool and method?  When I walk into a client to work on a Sharepoint implementation I usually find some combination of the following:

1) Just using SQL Backups
2) People saying we don't need to get anything else  because Symantec makes an agent for SharePoint backups.  (Never mind the fact that compared to other 3rd party options, Symantec is usually a complete and absolute NO SHOW at any and all SharePoint events/conferences that I go to and has zero presence in any SharePoint literature)

What tools and techniques do you prefer for backups/restores and why?
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crmsharepointAsked:
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Justin SmithConnect With a Mentor Sr. System EngineerCommented:
SQL backups are great, but can be time consuming if you want a granular level restore.

The enterprise product that I often work with is DocAve from AvePoint.  They've finally got it stable for 2010 as well.  It's a bit pricey, but probably the best in class.

Ideara and Quest are trusted names as well.

I DO NOT recommend using anything Symantec for SharePoint.
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abt-itConnect With a Mentor Commented:
One of the best Tools to Backup Sharepoint is the Dataprotection Manager from Microsoft.
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AtisConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Depending on what do you want to recover.
If you want to restore 'in point of time' then Data Protection Manager from Microsoft is the way to go. Also SQL level backup will do just fine.
More on item-level recovery (document, site) MOSS tools (stsadm) are quite enough. Full backup is fast and effective. Site level backup is time consuming, but could help in some scenarious. Try to use separate content DB for each 'type' of data, though.
No need to spend extra bucks, IMHO.
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Justin SmithSr. System EngineerCommented:
Can this be closed?
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crmsharepointAuthor Commented:
Thanks.  I propose AvePoint as well, and get Symantec thrown back in my face.
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