Another NTFS to RAW change

Posted on 2011-04-29
Last Modified: 2012-05-11
Ok here we go.
Now before I get yelled at I did check other threads and saw some good ideas but could not get drive to behave.
A client brought a Dell 1545 laptop with a no boot device error.
Onboard Dell diagnostics gives the drive a pass on tests.
I hooked it to my diagnostic rig via HDD dock after bout 5 mins it shows in my computer as a RAW.
windows will not let me format, chkdsk, or use error-checking.
Only 2 out of 4 of my recovery programs see it ( Steller Pheonix and Paragon but with I/O errors)
Embeded is a screem shot of WMI object viewer, I know I used this with dos commands to help recover another one but cant remember.
Any help will be great,
Thanks Screen Shot of WMI  for the drive
Question by:Richardlammer
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    >>  Only 2 out of 4 of my recovery programs see it ( Steller Pheonix and Paragon but with I/O errors)
      <<   it looks like the disk is bad
    run a diag on it to know it's status :      

    if you need the data from a bad disk -  you can try to replace the logic board with the same model and firmware version
    or contact a recovery service like :      
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    In Paragon find Volume Explorer tool and try to browse this RAW partition with it.
    Also, you can download Recuva and try to restore data from this partition.
    The file system is corrupt seemingly and all you can do now is to recover data then reinstall Windows.
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    You want to try to distinguish whether the drive is failing, which the Dell test suggests it is not, but try the non-destructive test for whichever manufacturer of disk it is as a double-check, as suggested by esteemed EEr nobus.
    HDDregenerator is often able to remap bad blocks/bad sectors.
    Where it gets difficult is if sector 0 is bad, since the bootstrap and partition table start there always, the recovery and remap of it might or might not be successful.
    Paragon has an excellent track record of figuring out the filesystem even if the partition table or parts of the FAT/inode table have been corrupted resulting in it appearing as raw.   Perhaps try that first, as suggested by esteemed EEr noxcho.
    Failing that, as suggested, there are GetDataBack, EasyRecovery Pro, R-Studio and numerous others you may've seen in your search here, that try to reassemble files from sequences of blocks chains, using different techniques used by different programs, to try to identify the type of file or their identity from their header info, etc.
    Clearly foremost importance is trying to backup irreplaceable user files, email, contacts, documents, photos, music, licenses, software activation keys.  Things like the OS, programs, drivers, can likely be replaced if all were lost, albeit a tedious long job.
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    Other possibilities:
    First rule out the possibility that the user had chosen to have Unbutu, RedHat, Linux or some other Operating System on it, as Windows might not recognize that partition(s) correctly.

    Depending on age and model of Dell in question, for quite awhile Dell was shipping systems with "special" partitioning on them.  One was the way they did the recovery partition, "DSR" partition.  Because they needed a special MBR Master Boot Record to support their special utilities partitions, the normal or usual or third party tools for partitioning could mess things up.
    Later, they began shipping laptops mith a special multi-boot hidden system "Dell Media Direct" that turned the laptop into a standalone DVD player, so it could be used like a consumer electronic without having to boot the computer OS.  For awhile that was accomplished by doing a special trick on the hard disk of creating a HPA (Host Protected Area).  This tended to create lots of problems for Partitioning Tools and utilities, which would mess things up when they were run.
    Perhaps that's what happened in this case.
    The latest HDat2 program is HPA aware, so likely preferable to WMI in this case.
    Later Dell changed the way they implemented MediaDirect, making it more of a regular type partitioning.
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    how is it going Richard?
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    any feedback or solution?

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    I have delt with several of these ntfs to raw switches and it seems all of them are sata drives. But only one was fatal to the drive. I am still not sold on the fact the drive was blown but I have spent several hours and I know of no way to force a drive to respond. I will still play with it and how knows.

    I was able to get it back by just hooking it up to my xp machine it "repaired" the drive and it was going. Ran the WD diagnostics program and it happily said your good. 24 hours later ring ring the client calls back and got a dead drive.  Should have Acronised the drive and make an image. But I could not reproduce the results.

    Soo looks like a bad control board. The dell drive has 4 partitions an oem, a recovery, and OS , and looks like a small "leftover". But i can only get the recovery partion. So just called it a day got a new drive, reloaded the laptop and sent it home.    This other than websites is one of the few computer issues I am stumped on.

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