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X server and Xterm on my Linux server

Dear Expert,

I would like to use web browsers(Opera http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux)
in my Linux server and display it to my home window XP PC.

First step, I try to download all x server software to my PC and it can't connect to my server because it needs
to do a command Xterm, X something like that, and I don't know where is the path of such as demo tool such as xcalc , xclock
and xterm, x utility.
When I go to back to my linuxer server, run xterm, xcalc, xclock, it report no such command.
I would like to how can I know my domain server can run x server and xterm
I get confused with those x server and xterm, what is diffferent ?
And we need to run x server on Window XP as well as on Linux server, RIght ?
And I look at this tutorial, and get more confused since there is one more term SSH.
http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html

Anyone could help me to start to my web broswer on my linux server and display it to my window XP PC step by step.
Please advise

Since I need to run php program at server and get data from one website so I choose to run broswer in linux instead of
IE on xp because it is no need to ftp my data into server in order to redue the excution time for more 100 files.

Duncan
Duncan

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I just connect to my Linux server host domain in which it seems there is no any xterm, Xserver, all is no such command

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Actully, I connect my server by Putty standone program, there is no issue at all
I can access my Linux domain, and I know Putty terminal is not allowed to run
any window application or GUI stuff on my XP pC

When I run Xming on PC XP to display server's information, nothing I can see, just a dump terminal.

It seems that your installation did not include X components. What distro are you using ??

> Actully, I connect my server by Putty standone program, there is no issue at all
> I can access my Linux domain, and I know Putty terminal is not allowed to run
> any window application or GUI stuff on my XP pC

Putty will be used to redirect X output to your XP client not for actually displaying anything GUI.

> When I run Xming on PC XP to display server's information, nothing I can see, just a dump terminal.
This is normal for XMing is only an X server. Without proper application supplying anything on it all will get is what you have now...

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Okay, first step:

1-I have connected to my server 184.82.217.80 throught PUtty Standalone program on my XP
2- Open XLauch ,selet One window option and then next
There is three option

i-Start no client
ii-Start a program
iii-Open session vai XDMCP,

I try three option that is only giving me a dump window nothing inside at complete the option.

WHich option, I should select ?

I'd pick the first option. It will be just listening the X port. The second option will be launching another program in our case we don't need it. The third option will initiate XDMCP whichh will announce itself as an X server for other headless X servers on the network which is also irrelevant in our case.

You need to provide an output to your X first. So lets focus on the server side.

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Three I have tried three option , but just give me a tilte of Xming :0:0 window after connecting to my server by putty

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> Three I have tried three option , but just give me a tilte of Xming :0:0 window after connecting to my
> server by putty

This is what I kept telling you about. Wneh you pick any of the options you just have a "listening" X server nothing more. PuTTY without configuring it to direct X traffic to your local system would not send anything to it.

Furthermore as you've previouly noticed there are not X capable programs istalled on your remote linux system.

Please stop improvising on your own for this is for someone who exactly knows what to do and follow the directions we've provide including the answers to he questions we've asked.

From the very first message on I've kept asking what distro are you using. When you answer it I'll be able to provide you the exact instructions on how to install some X capable programs that could provide you soe output on your local system. Also please tell me if you have followed the instructions on how to redirect X output over the PuTTY already or not.

Cheers,
K.

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After login SSH tunneling mode by PUTTY,

I go to TightzVNC Viewer and then input Tight/NC Server: 184:82:18080 and click connect
The connection is not connected.

Just want to know what I am doing , eveything is no responce.
Say ask, if connection in TightVNC is successfull, what I will see, new terminal prompt to
my XP wndows, and then I can run window command on Linux server for example, xcalc ?

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Dear arnold,

I follow your instrcution for PUTTY setup
What option I should use for Xming, there is three ?
i-Start no client
ii-Start a program
iii-Open session vai XDMCP,
What is different ?

And I could not find any GUI apllication in my Linux server, please suggestion one for me to do a test
and I try xcalc ther is no such command.
If I found GUI application, you mean I run it on putty window and Xming window will display the result , RIght

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Step-1 I will try all you suggestion, X11, SSH tunning, ...etc for Putty connection. respect
to different Xming and TIght VNC
Step-2 How to setup XMing or TightVNC . There is a lot setup setting,
Step-3 my domain Adm support, they never install xterm, x-server or xcal on the server I am using,
Could I download Opera web browser linux version into my server for Display testing, any suggestio
for check display test on XMing or TIghtVNC

Please advise

Duncan

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Step-1 I will try all you suggestion, X11, SSH tunning, ...etc for Putty connection. respect
to different Xming and TIght VNC
Step-2 How to setup XMing or TightVNC . There is a lot setup setting,
Step-3 my domain Adm support tell me just now , they never install xterm, x-server or xcal on the server I am using,
Could I download Opera web browser linux version into my server for Display testing, any suggestio
for check display test on XMing or TIghtVNC

Please advise

I can't help more, since you won't answer my questions about how you access your server. Good luck.

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I am using Putty software to access my server everyday

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I check this link at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/access-linux-from-windows-xp-system/

I need to upload TightVPN server into my Linux but I could not run command #apt-get install tightvncserver
apt-get no such command on my server

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@arnold: Don't use xming, used cygwin X-server.

He is not even properly running XMing how do you expect a novice user to insall CygWin. IT is bulky requires knowledger to run etc. Let alone he is not sure he will use X server or :(

Probably should have add the I in the "don't use xming, used cygwin X-server"
xming does not require much to install. Download and run, the default options are fine and it start xming and it works. The asker seems to have gone the extra step and launched the xlaunch which is the xming configuration utility.

xming includes an installation of putty and within the configuration has to option to start a remote program with putty as one of the options.

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Yes, it is no xterm or x stuff on my Linux server(Using Hosting24.com hostage company)
Since then no X term on my server, so it might go to use TIghtVNC, and it need install VNCserver on my linux server and install VNC viewer in my XP PC window and Putty with SSH/X11 to get all work donw Right ?

But I think I am not able to install TIghtVNCserver on my server since I don't access right to root dirrectory of my server ?
I try install run command,# apt-get install tightvncserver also reply no such command, so I don't know what kind of server is,
everything is no such command.

Up to this moment for my message, I still not able to use TightVNC on server and PC, IS it RIght ? Any other atlernative.

Please advise

Duncan

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I mean I might give up TightVNC or remote display task unless swtich other server domain provider, Is it Right ?

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Since there's no X the tightVNC or Xming would do nothing. Also why do you need to install it there is curious instead of setting up locally.

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I know it is better running Opera locally on my PC Windows PC. But it is good graphic testing for remote display work.

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At this moment, I am thinking about why I pay for the hosting domain company if there is a lot of "no such command"
If I use the money fee for hosting company to buy a PC and setup as my own server and just buy or rent a domain name
that will be more efficient in cost or work

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Thanks for all of your reply

Really Disappoint my server is no
any X and charge me

Why other people could run Xming
and TightVPN on thier server because at least it is two reason
1- they have access right to install
X server
2- the server domain company already install Xserver for users

Is it right ? Please advise at this
last question

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Correct:
Thanks for all of your reply

Really Disappointed to my server is no
any X and charge me

Why other people could run Xming
and TightVPN on their Window PC because at least it is two reason
1- they have access right to install
X server on their server
2- the server domain company already install Xserver for users

Is it right ? Please advise at this
last question

I agree, if you are paying for this server, demand that the hosting company install X components.

Yeah sn fact if you will have X access to your server :
- You need administrator access to setup X on it
or
- It should be already installed.

but this will not happen unless it is a dedicated server or VPS.

Another point is X performance has nothing to do with Graphics accelerator card settings since the screen image is actually drawn on the client side. This holds for both Windows and Remote X access though.

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So I will request it to re-install in my server later on.
But even I have X on my server, Do I need to install TightVNC server on my server, if so or need, I don't
have right to install it. Is it correct. so there is another problem and need to ask the other request for domain hosting company

I know TightVNC viewer is no issue to install on my PC

Xcomponents are an unnecessary overhead on a server. Why did you get this server in the first place? Do you need it to host your website, mail , database? For all of these you do not need graphical components.

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I know it I need it in the future. But if some application is only on Linux and no on Window , it might be useful