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pdf viewing with horizontal scrolling

I recently purchased a Mac and would like to find software which allows for horizontal scrolling.  I want to use this for viewing music.  When I have a line-up of music to play, the individual songs sometimes contain 1, 2, or more pages.

I have tried Mac preview and Skim, and although both allow me to view 2 pages at a time, they don't allow me to arrange pages, and I cannot scroll horizontally (left to right) only vertically.  This creates a problem because depending upon the order of the songs, I can end up with the last page of a song being viewed with the first page of the next, and this won't work for obvious reasons.  

If I choose full view continuous page, then it only scrolls vertically.  This also doesn't work.  I need to be able to either arrange pages of music together and put in a specific order, or if I could simply scroll horizontally and continuous, then I can easily advance the music as I need, and can place in the order I need as well.

Does anyone know of a pdf viewer for Mac which would allow me to arrange pages in a specific order, view full screen, and scroll continuously horizontally instead of vertically?
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Mac2010Commented:
You can most likely do this with Adobe Acrobat Pro. You'll have to pay premium price for it after the 30-day trial.
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro.html

Maybe a shareware program does something similar, but in daily life Acrobat Pro is the one I encounter most.
http://www.macupdate.com/find/mac/%2Bpdf%20%2Beditor

Horizontal scrolling; it depends on what you exactly need. If it is an arrangement of seperate pages a simple alternative could be making PDFs of seperate single pages (use print command), or even screenshots. Put these pages/pics in a folder; select all and view them with QuickLook.
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Mac2010Commented:
P.S. QuickLook is part of Mac OS X. It works in the Finder and from open/save windows in programs.
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
That's a nice extensive list, but unless I start at the top and download each, then start trying them one by one, I cannot find a way to determine which of those have full screen horizontal scrolling.

Does anyone know of a pdf viewer with this feature?  I cannot find any google results for this, aside from discussion groups that want the same thing but cannot find it.  I tried the quicklook feature.  Very nice, but again, no full screen horizontal scrolling feature.  Only vertical, and full screen does not fit the page to the screen, but rather makes the page huge that I cannot even see the entire page.  I cannot be scrolling up and down when I'm in the middle of playing.  Impossible.  I have to play, I cannot be scrolling on a computer screen.  I can scroll between songs, but not in the middle of songs.

Very strange, when we tend to turn pages in a book left to right, not top to bottom.  This would be a natural method for reading large documents, and yet pdf scrolling seems to be all vertical scrolling.  How bizarre.
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Mac2010Commented:
So you're looking for a program that can move pages as if they are on a (photo-) film roll? I have never seen such a program but I will check it with some musicians I know. Only that may take a while...
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
Thus far, I have not found anything.
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
Wow.  Thank you so much.  I didn't expect this.  I just assumed that there would not be any solution for what I am looking for.
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BillDLCommented:
I'm a bit pushed for time at the moment, and so I can't check out software in more detail, but I belieev you will have to either:

1. Take screenshots of each full page, save as images, and use image viewing software that allows you to view as a "flippable" virtual album
OR
2. Convert the PDF fo Flash format and use a "flip viewer" software.

I have never encountered PDF viewing software with this feature.

You aren't alone:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2483560

Google Search
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Eoin OSullivanConsultantCommented:
From my knowledge the "normal" behaviour of PSFs is for vertical page layout and scrolling. If you open Preview in full screen mode you can go through the pages using the arrow keys. If you modify the arrow keys you can go from page to page.

The only method can think of is to use an eBook reader. Ebooks tend to have horizontal page turning and work full screen.
You'll have to convert the PDF to an ePub file with something like Calibre.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5509965/how-can-i-convert-pdfs-and-other-ebooks-to-the-epub-format
There are several eBook readers available for OSX.

The latest OSX Lion has lots of full screen and swipe gestures to page turn in a more book-like method.
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BillDLCommented:
Good point by Eoin.  Alternatively Zoom to Page Level - Ctrl + O in standard view and use the PageUp and PageDown keys.

I read an article in the PC Pro magazine (Issue 202 Aug 2011) by Nik Rawlinson entitled "Publish Your Own Kindle eBook".  I found the same article online, and on the 2nd page he suggests using "Calibre" to do the conversion just as Eoin has suggested above.  I would say that is as good a recommendation as you need.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/368587/how-to-publish-your-own-kindle-ebook
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
This does not convert my pdf's and maintain the format for a MacBook Air.  It has settings for other devices, but not a laptop.  The formating is critical for music sheets, and it offsets my chords and changes the sizes of the fonts.  This doesn't seem to work for my purposes either.  I don't think a solution exists for my problem. I am giving up.
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
This does not resolve my problem.  I wanted to be able to scroll music pages horizontally for purposes of performing on a stage.  I need the format to remain exactly what it is on the printed sheets.  I cannot have changes and any movement of the chords over the text will create a problem and I would play mistakes.  This solution has settings for other devices, but not laptops.  When I convert, the fonts change sizes and parts of the sheets alter their size.  I doubt a solution exists for my problem and I need to change devices.  The iPad automatically comes with horizontal scrolling of a multi-page pdf, but not a laptop.
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BillDLCommented:
Thank you rotnfire.  Pity none of the suggestions work for you.
In the end, I think the best solution for your laptop is to take screenshots of your PDF file's pages, save them as good quality images, and find suitable software to create some sort of photo album that allows you to flip pages as though you were using a hardcopy music book on a stand.  I'm quite sure that with a little tinkering you could easily create a couple of rudimendary foot pedals that pull down on bits of bent wire hovering over your Left/Right arrow keys.

You can actually create a Multi-Page *.TIF image from the source files, and most standard free image viewers allow you to page back and forward through the separate "pages" (images) in the file.  The free IrfanView image editor allows you to do this using a simple batch file.  I just did it using 8 pages from a scanned Beatles score simply selected in Adobe Acrobat Reader, copied and pasted as images into IrfanView image editor, and saved as sequential pages to a new "Multi-Image TIF file".  I opened the image file full-screen in the standard Windows Picture and Fax Viewer on an XP system, and seamlessly "flipped" between the "pages" using the PageUp and PageDown keys.  *.TIF image files are large though.  I can do the same in IrfanView but it needs Ctrl + PageUp/PageDown and requires two fingers on one hand.

.... or, as you say, buy an iPad.
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rotnfireAuthor Commented:
Thanks.  My wife just got an iPad so I can try that as a solution.
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BillDLCommented:
Excellent!  I really hope it works well for you so you can concentrate on what you are playing.
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