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Buying Terminal Server

Hi everyone,

I need to put togheter a server which will take the roll of a terminal server.
I really have no idea what need to be the hardware requirements.
I have even never put togheter a server, so I hope you can help me.

The terminal server is for 5 CALs.

I was looking at this server: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-241434-241646-241477-3884315-3918503-3918504.html

Is this overkill or what do you really suggest for a terminal server or even a server in general?

I hope you can give me some advice!

Kind regards
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Silencer001
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Carl WebsterCommented:
What applications will you be using?

What types of users will you be serving?  light users who run one app all day long?  Users who are constantly in and out of a couple of apps all day long?  Users who start multiple apps and leave them running all day long?

e-mail access?  printing?  generating PDFs?  any graphics work?  videos? etc etc etc
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Carl WebsterCommented:
Did you notice that server comes with no hard drives and no operating system?
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CWCertus1Commented:
This will handle it fine.
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Carl WebsterCommented:
How can a server handle 5 users with no hard drives?
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Silencer001Author Commented:
Didn't even notice the harddrive. My collegue told me I needed 2 disks for RAID1 en 3 for RAID5.

The terminal server is for 5 users and it will be put to use for the following:

      - Microsoft Office
      - Software developed by our company (Java Based)

They will most likely be running the software from our company the whole day with microsoft office. Then at times contact the shares from the server, printing will be made available.

The software is for architects and graphical designers. It is actually to manage all of their plans and documents. I honestly don't know if they would be using archicad on the terminal server. My collegue just left..

On my laptop the software uses 400MB of RAM and 30% CPU power at max of a dual core 2.1Ghz.

Thanks for your input CarlWebster!
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
While this will be fine (when you add drives to it), it is overkill in my opinion.  A SINGLE Quad Core CPU and 8 GB of RAM should be plenty for your requirements.  If you expect to increase the number of users in the relative near term, then you MAY consider a second CPU and more RAM (In general, a Terminal Server will need more RAM, not more CPU - there are always exceptions, but that's a general guideline).
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Silencer001Author Commented:
Thanks Ieew for your recommendations!! What kind of server would you recommend from hp?

And do you have more guidelines for a terminal server? Suggestions for RAID controllers or some other things I should take into account?

I really have no expierence with server hardware. Not also that much for desktops, so any help is appreciated!
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Carl WebsterCommented:
In a perfect world, I would buy 5 hard drives:

2 in RAID1 for the OS drive
2 in RAID1 for the Program Drives
1 single drive to direct the page file, temp files, temp internet files and print spooler folder

Use Folder Redirection for My Documents, etc
Use Home Folder
Use Roaming Profiles

With 12GB RAM, I would go with Server 2003 x64 Enterprise or 2008 R2 RDS.  I am purely a Citrix guy and have only ever setup one pure TS environment and that was back in 2004.  You asked for input on the server ad that is what I have given you.  Hope it helps.
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Silencer001Author Commented:
My collegue told me te use 2 disk of around 150GB in raid 1 and 3 disks of 300GB in raid5.

Why would she choose this set-up and why would RAID1 be your option?

Thanks for your input on this, CarlWebster, really appreciate it!
The OS would also be 2008 R2..
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
RAID 1 is simplier - and easier to recover if necessary.  RAID 5 may be more reliable than it was in older SCSI days, but I grew uncomfortable with it over the years.  and since a terminal server really needs to only store user profiles and a few applications, a small mirrored set should be fine.
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Carl WebsterCommented:
Raid5 is slow in writes.  A 3-disk Raid5 is the slowest raid5.  But for 5 users it will not matter much.

3 300GB disks in Raid5 will give you 600GB of storage.  What are you planing on storing on the terminal server?  Not much I hope.  Why not 3 150GB disks in Raid5?  that will give you 300GB of storage and cost less.  You really should not be storing anything on a terminal server.
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Silencer001Author Commented:
Thanks for your opinions and input! I will pass it through to my collegue..

It is indeed quite some storage for just a terminal server and its uses.

Now specifically for the raid setup, which raid controller should you recommend in buying or isn't there much difference in a raid controller? Do you need a specific raid controller for raid 1 or raid 5 or do you just have 1 universal raid controller in which you set some parameters?
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Carl WebsterCommented:
The server comes with a RAID Controller.  I would verify with HP that the controller will handle multiple raid level.  Most higher end controllers will.
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Silencer001Author Commented:
But don't I need to buy another RAID controller, because I will be using RAID 1 2 times?
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Carl WebsterCommented:
Check with HP but that controller may handle multiple raid configs.
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