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We're looking to change our network password change policy to a more-or-less standard MS best practice.  As a result, we, the IT department, will no longer know user passwords.  The problem is that previous passwords were a means of user identifcation/ verification/ authentication.  Thus, we need a new method.  We had proposed using the last 4 digits of the user's SSN, but that was rejected.  I do see that there are some software/application solutions out there.  However, I'd like to see what other people/compainies are doing.  Anyone have a recommendation?  I tired to do a search, but the results were all over the place and not related.

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Jer.
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Why do you need to know a users password? The whole point in a password is so that one user has access and no one else does - what good is tracking if multiple people use the account?

If you need access to the account, for whatever reason, you could either ask the user to log in, or if they are on long term sick, reset their password, log in to do whatever, then set their password to be changed at next login.

In my company, a user choose whatever password they want. If I need to do something, I go on as an admin account or if the user is having issues, I'll have them log in so I can see the issue. This can be worked around with Remote Assistance, but that isn't always practical.
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A simple solution I used was: user@company for all the users except the management.
I agree, the IT should not know the users password, the point of accountability fails; the password was only known to you therefore we have come to the conclusion that the following activity was performed by you.

Now the user can claim that the IT must have used his account, I know this is a extreme case but it could happen at the most unlikely of times.
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You can verify users as simply as calling them back on a know telephone number or getting the reset request emailed by a line manager or a combination of both..or you could just get to know the users, have them pop in face to face (difficult with large multi site companies i know but i have never know a large multi site company to use a password policy like you are using.


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Um.  There seems to be some considerable confusion here.  I do not want to know passwords.  That is the reason for the change in practice.  However, as stated, since we did know previous passwords, we were able to use them to verify a caller.  Thus, I'm looking for suggestions for a way to verify the caller (without having to manufacture a secret question for each user).  We have over 400 users in 14 states, and most are mobile.  Again, the sole purpose of this inquiry is to identify what people are doing in the real world to address user verification for password resets.

Thank you,

Jer
electronic id or sso pass could be great, no?
unique id with specific hash they plug on demand to verify...
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Due to the additional research, I've delayed this project a bit.  Still considering options.
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Sorry for the delay in closing this question.  Javed, thanks for the suggestions.  While I didn't use them (directly), at least you attempted to answer the question with pertinent/realistic information.
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