Extend wireless range

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I am trying to extend the wireless range at an RV park. The park is about 1500  to 2000 ft. long. I can put a repeater at about 500-700 ft. and another one at about 1000 ft.- 1200 ft. The problem is the park is very narrow with pads on each side and a driveway down the middle. So, there would have to be the router, then a repeater and another repeater all in a line unless one repeater will suffice. The problem with that is that is not line of site to the furthest point because the park curves and there are trees. I can get near line of site to the first point and from that one to the last. What would be the suggestions on what type of equipment to use. I do currently have an 5 Engenius access points. The first is used as an access point, the second as a bridge, the third as an access point, the 4th as a bridge and the 5th as an access point. There are only omnidirectional pole antennas being used on the access points and nothing on the bridges. What would be some suggestions on getting the strongest signal to the furthest end of the park. Budget is variable and of course we would like to to this for minimal cost, but more importantly we want to increase the signal. Thanks in advance.
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what model Egnenius AP's do you already have? Are you not getting a stong signal at the end of the park now? Sounds like your deployment is correct.

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Correct. Don't remember the model, but I'm pretty sure they are 600MW AP's. MW right not Watt. Anyway, there is no external antenna on the first AP by the router, none on the first bridge, an omni on the first repeater, none on the second bridge and an omni on the last AP. I'm wondering if the bridges should have directionals back to the previous AP, if that would help. Open to suggestions. I could look at even changing equipment out, but don't see why since these are some pretty high powered AP's. I do have to replace one that went bad. Anyway, any thoughts? Thanks.
Antenna's are what give you your range. Why are you not using them on all your AP's? That may be your issue.



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Someone else had set this up and I'm coming in to try to clean it up. So, what type of antennas would you suggest? There is line of sight through some trees from the the first AP to first Bridge. At least you can see it through the trees. Same for the second AP to second Bridge. But, you can't see the second bridge from the first AP. BTW, the first bidge and second AP or next to each other and the second bridge and 3rd AP or next to each other. It would be cool if I could get a signal from the first AP to the second bridge which is located about 500 or so feet from the end of the park. So, I assume a directional antenna on the first AP and first bridge and directional on the last bridge unless I could do away with the middle set up. But, what kind would you recommend? Any brands in mind? What gain do you think would be sufficient? Also, if I put a directional on the first AP, there are some units that are currently accessing it so I don't know if a directional would hurt them. I guess an omni on the first AP and directional on the first bridge would actually be the way to go. Thanks again.
You may have to check with Engenius and see what they offer for their particular units as you never said what model you have. I found an Engenius guide on multihop deployments. Their AP's in the guide have two radios. They assign one radio for repeat mode (WDS) and the other radio for Client access. That way every AP along the way is giving clients a signal.

http://www.engeniustech.com.sg/site/files/App%203%20Business%20Wireless%20Application%20Notes%20-%20Multi-Hop%20Repeater.pdf

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Thank. I'll have to double check the model. I'm considering upgrading to 1000mw AP's and use the same configuration as I currently have with existing antennas.
If you do decide to spend money I would at least give Cisco Outdoor AP line a look. Cisco makes top notch stuff.

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I'll do that. BTW, I checked distances so to review: RV park about 1500 ft. long with one driveway and rv's on each side so long and narrow. 600 mw AP at front office with only internal antenna, 600 mw bridge 750 ft. with only internal antenna and on same pole it goes to a 600 mw AP with omnidir. pole antenna, at 300 ft. further is another 600 mw bridge with only internal antenna and on same pole 600 mw AP with another omndir. antenna. From there it is another 500 ft. to the end of the park with no additional AP's. There is a curve in the drive and some tree obstruction between the AP at the office and the first bridge/AP, but they are visible. From that one to the last one is clear and it is clear to the end of the park.

So, unless you have any other suggestions, I'll check out the Cisco. Thanks.
I've been looking a bit at the Enginius website and they offer some real nice AP's. Still not sure which model you have but you may just want to stick with what you have (unless these are very old\outdated models) and possilby talk with their support folks there to help with your deployment. Its seems their models have very long range ability way and above your 1500ft park.

I see you mentioned regarding the bridge and AP are sitting on same pole. In their models online, the Bridge can act like its own AP and service clients. May be just the model I was looking at. Again, it may be worth your wild to contact customer service.

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Thanks for you help.

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