Connecting to Network Drive Using WIndows 98

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We have a few old PCs out in our factory that I'd like to image.  I want to send that image to our SAN.  We have a domain but none of the Windows 98 machines are on it.  How can I access a shared drive on the network from these PCs so I can send the harddrive image to it.  Thank you.
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Can your windows 98 see any share?

I've found this. Maybe you can give it a look:
http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=1699
Confused: You have a network, a SAN and some non-Domain Windows 98 PCs.  Are you trying to reimage them from the SAN?

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yes non-domain Windows 98 PCs.  These 98 machines run some of our older factory machinery but I need to image them.  I have an old version of Acronis that runs on 98 but I need those PCs to be able to see a share on the windows domain so I can save them to it.
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If the space on the SAN is accessible via a Server OS, then just boot the PC's using the PartedMagic LiveCD, connect to the share, and use CloneZilla which is included on that CD to store images on the share:

http://partedmagic.com/
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Windows 98 machines don't join the domain as such.... do they have any networking on, i.e. Client for Microsoft network, tcpip etc.?  If not configure those network components etc.

Easier though would be to use boot disc as has been suggested.  I'm sure the last time I looked at Acronis it was a boot CD which can then write to a USB drive, say, or network drive. That is then independent of it being XP/98/ or whatever.

Steve
I believe you'll need windows 98 SE  second edition to network it
you can buy this versions if needed.
http://about.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=54366/search=windows+98/st=product/sv=title
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-98-Second-Edition/dp/B00002JV62
or this free version
Unofficial Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2.1a
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Unofficial-Windows-SE-Service-Pack.shtml
bootdisc
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

Slaving the drive is probably the simplest  method to ghost an image to your current C drive.
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-64.html

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True... or just get a cheap USB to PATA adaptor and use that to do it with a laptop etc.

Windows 98 had MS networking OK, as did Win 95.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1315558507&sr=8-5

Steve
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So, if you assign static IP outside the scope of your DHCP to the Win 98 box so they are on the same subnet first and then open explorer in Win98 and browse to \\server\share what happens?

Just curious why you would want to join them to the domain if you just want to image them across...
Win98 used netbuei as its preferred network protocol, which was still available in Xp but you had to manually add it in from the cd, do you have any machines running xp?

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Is this is a one-off imaging, as opposed to a regular job you are trying to get it to run, and if you boot off the acronis cdrom then OS is irrelevnt anyway like I said.... just image it onto a USB flash / harddisc if you can't get it across the network and walk that over to a machine that does have access already...
You should be able to use the same "Workgroup" trick that lets XP Home connect to server shares and here's how:
First, I woul heartilly suggest you read this and use the ERU to backup the configuration file for Win98: http://www.computer-help.net/CH-Ideas/ECC-ERU.html
As long as the ip addresses for the Win98 systems are in the range of the server, the rest is straightforward.
Go to the system icon in the control panel and on the Computer Name tab, change the workgroup name to match your domain (which will  force a reboot)
Make sure you have identical login names and passwords in both the AD and on the Win98 system and login on to the 98 system using those credentials.
You may or may not need and entry in Hosts or LMHosts for the servername and it's ip address; but, with the matching login and workgroup, you should be able to access any of the shares you allow for that user in AD.
If you would like to eliminate the login/password, you can use TweakUI v1.33 to setup Autologin: http://download.cnet.com/Tweak-UI/3000-2072_4-2830963.html

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I picked up Acronis Backup & Recovery 11 which boots off CD, finds the network card, gives you an IP and allows you to connect to networked drives.  This allowed me to backup my images.

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I've requested that this question be closed as follows:

Accepted answer: 0 points for tholdren's comment http:/Q_27244260.html#36956829

for the following reason:

I found software by looking around online.  This software worked perfectly for what I needed to do.
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You could have done the same with the tool I suggested, the PartedMagic LiveCD, only that that would have been free...

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Likewise with any of the options we all suggested... I did say in http:#36508561 that Acronis was a boot CD that could write to USB or network and therefore independent of OS.
captainTechnical Director

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I agree.

@tholdren
It is good practice to respond and give your experts feedback on what you have tried and how this went. In particular it is frustrating when no feedback is received to take the issue further until you request closing the Q.

dragon-it and others have pointed towards boot CDs, so a split awarding the points amongst those including your post with 0 point award is in good order.

capt.
And I gave him a way to connect to the domain which also would have worked.

IMHO, deleted, points not refunded.

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Sorry for the delay.  How about:

rindi: http:#36508547        200 points  Accepted
dragon-it: http:#36508561    150 points  Assisted
DavidMcCarn: http:36510510   150 points  Assisted

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