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We have 2 2003 Terminal Servers in a 2003 domain. They were previously load balanced in basic round robin fashion, the load balancing connection name was term. The servers themselves are term3 and term4. The load balancing has since been eliminated. They were both licensing servers. The licensing has now been removed from term3. We have new 2008 licenses that should be backwards compatible for these terminal servers, they are on a 2008 R2 server that has been activated as a licensing server. We are trying to get term3 to use the new licensing server. We have set in group policy under computer/policy/administrative/Windows Components/Remote Desktop Services/Remote Desktop Session Host/Licensing  and defined the new server and the licensing type. The group policy is being returned as being applied from gpresult. However when opening Terminal Server Configuration on the terminal server everything is greyed out, Automatic is selected and “In Enterprise Role” lists term, term3 and term4. We have tried to define the new licensing server explicitly through registry keys found in this article: X, but all that does is move the bubble from Automatic to “Use these license servers” but that field is still blank. Where is it pulling term, term3 and term4 from? Term, term3 and term4 are members of no groups in the active directory. What are we missing/doing wrong?
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by:Felix Leven
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I can be wrong here, but i am pretty sure you have to downgrade your 2008 R2 Cals to 2003 (MUST call Microsoft Product Activation Group for example) even if you are using a 2008 R2 License server. The 2008 licenseserver distributes the cal's on base of the client OS version, thats why I think you must have the matching cal's on your client server. When you make the call you can also transfer your existing 2003 downlevel cal's back to the 2008 r2 server.
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by:isdirect
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I've tried installing the CALs as 2008 and 2003, but that was early in the troubleshooting process. Is there any way to confirm outside of the Terminal Services Configuration snap in what licensing server the terminal server is using?
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by:Felix Leven
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Tried this tool (not used it by my self yet) ):

To run the Licensing Diagnosis tool
Open Terminal Services Configuration. To open Terminal Services Configuration, click Start, point to Administrative Tools, point to Terminal Services, and then click Terminal Services Configuration.

In the left pane, click Licensing Diagnosis. Licensing Diagnosis will automatically run and try to discover license servers and identify licensing configuration problems, and then display the results.
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by:isdirect
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Is that on 2003 or 2008? I don't have the Licensing Diagnosis option.
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by:Felix Leven
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In Enterprise Role the TerminalServer is saved here: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Parameters\ DomainLicenseServerMulti -> on my terminalserver 2003 , I found my licenseserver there.
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by:isdirect
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Yes I read that article. I believe if I change that registry key it gets overwritten whenever I restart the terminal server. Why would the ad still return term3 when it is no longer a licensing server? I'll test this again when I get a chance but I'm pretty sure I tried that.
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by:isdirect
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I changed the scope of my 2008 licensing server to enterprise instead of domain, then I published it. Term4 will now detect it. So now my biggest problem I assume is "unpublishing" term and term3 and then term4 once I remove licensing from it. How do I do that?
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by:Felix Leven
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When you uninstall the service and your AD is online, it will removed from ldap as avctive licens-server
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Then why is is still showing term and term3? Neither of which are licensing servers anymore.
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Hard to say,

•While the License Server was being uninstalled, Active Directory was down and License Server could not be un-published from the Catalog.
 •If you uninstalled the License Server, but without Enterprise Administrator Credentials, in that case also License Server won't be Un-Published from the Catalog.
•If License Server machine is being moved from domain to workgroup, then License Server scope automatically changes to workgroup mode. It needs to be un-published manually from the Catalog.


the post explaines how to manually get rid of the entry's in  LDAP

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2007/02/27/manually-publishing-and-un-publishing-terminal-server-license-servers.aspx
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by:isdirect
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Thanks, I got rid of term and term3. To use 2008 CALS for 2003 Terminal Server do I install them as 08 or 03 or is there some other process I have to go through?
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by:Felix Leven
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I had to do a downgrade once (bought 2008 r2 license -> downdrade to 2003 and used it on 2003), i had to phone the clearing house to achieve this.
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Even though its installed on a 2008 licensing server?
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by:Felix Leven
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If the Terminal Services Configuration snap in accepts your key, no problem. If not you have to call m$ and get another key.
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by:isdirect
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It accepted the key just fine, but its still not distributing any of them.
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by:Felix Leven
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Any event id's you can post ?
License Server scope ok again?
term 3 is now the only exisitng licenseserver and all others are removed (kind of confused :-)
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by:isdirect
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term4 is the only existing one, the rest are removed. I'm concentrating on getting term3 to pull from the new server right now. Term3 does show the new server as its discovered license server under Terminal Server Configuration. Sorry for the confusion. :)

The latest TermServLicensing events are from the 7th so I'm assuming they're related to when I was making all the initial changes. They're 3,0,18. No other related events since.
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by:Felix Leven
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Ok, users are connecting to term 3 and try to open remote apps and stil get an error about missing terminalserver licenses from term 3 ?
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by:Felix Leven
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Note After you move the CALs, you must deactivate the old license server.
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Using User CALS, which aren't tracked in 2003.
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