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Mistakes in the Presidents speach

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There were several mistakes in the President's speech.

For Example:
 - President Lincoln joined the Republican party about 2 years after it was founded, and was not its founder.
 - Nor was President Lincoln the first to set up colleges with government money (Miami University was first laid by an Act of Congress signed by President George Washington)

I am not blaming the President for these gaffs. I doubt he actually wrote the speech, or had time to research it.

Do these mistakes matter? Should Obama's speech writers offer a public apology to the President, to the public?
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by:Anthony Russo
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Not a big deal to me. Lots of speeches have mistakes in them on old facts.

Mistakes about current times are more important than about 150 years ago to me.

Anthony
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by:Mujtaba_Alam_Khan
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I agree with Anthony.
If mistakes were made about current events (like the Economy or Jobs) than people would something to say about it. Old facts aren't a big deal.

-Muj ;-)
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by:carsRST
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No, really it doesn't matter.  His speech was more stimulus crap that's failed to work the first time.

However, if Bush had made them, they'd be played out on the media 24/7.  The media would pound it incessantly.

But the bigger issue is this.  With Obama, as outlined in the link below, we have PBS actually covering up Obama's mistakes.  And they say there's not a media bias????  

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/09/pbs_alters_transcript_to_hide_obama_gaffe.html
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by:Anthony Russo
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>>However, if Bush had made them, they'd be played out on the media 24/7.  The media would pound it incessantly.

I'm so tired of hearing the conservatives cry about the mainstream media treating them unfairly and playing the victim card. Nobody likes to hear whining.

>>But the bigger issue is this.  With Obama, as outlined in the link below, we have PBS actually covering up Obama's mistakes.  And they say there's not a media bias????  

Shame on PBS for altering facts, plain and simple. Fox News does it too. Part of the media game to spread their propaganda and hold their viewers to what they think they want to see, rather than just report the facts.

Only way to know what the president really said that night (or any political story) is to have seen/heard it yourself live. All other ways have probably been slanted by the source.

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>>I'm so tired of hearing the conservatives cry about the mainstream media treating them unfairly and playing the victim card.

Not as much as I'm tired of the media bias.  

The NYTs ran the Abu Ghraib story on their front page for 32 days straight.  If this treatment were given to Obama and Democrats, their approval would be in single digits.  Yet, as I've shown, we have a media that covers for anything and anyone left of center.



>>Fox News does it too.

As usual, no examples.  I'm sure you can hit Media Matters and find something taken of context.
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Anyone can misspeak.  Show me where Fox News covered up a flop for a conservative politician or beat.  Or skews its news coverage in the favor of one group vs another.  

Before you mention Hannity, note I said "news" coverage.  Hannity is not news; he's political commentary.



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See NBC just a week or so ago saying their pollsters "are concerned about obama's poll numbers."

WTF????  

Since when are pollsters to be concerned about a president's poll numbers?  This was on NBC "news."

http://mrctv.org/videos/nbcs-chuck-todd-our-pollsters-are-concerned-about-obamas-poll-numbers

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by:Anthony Russo
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I agree the mass media is biased towards democrats. but it is short sighted to say that outlets like Fox News or talk radio are not biased towards republicans. And it is not an occasional misspeak - it is blatant false facts in many cases.

Hannity is a common culprit and yes his show is political commentary but he uses clips out of context and states facts in his show that are blatant lies. Commentary or not, comment on truth, not lies you make up.

From the beginning, I stated all of them slant stories for their own agendas so we have no argument there unless you are denying there is no slant towards republicans.


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>>but it is short sighted to say that outlets like Fox News or talk radio are not biased towards republicans

Depends on what you mean.   Political commentary, such as Rush or Hannity, is not news.  It's someone's opinion.  People get confused on this.  Sure the commentary on Fox is leans right, but it's a business and Fox dominates.  MSNBC's commentary is hard left, and they're at the bottom for about every time slot.  

The last example I gave was during a news piece on NBC.   You won't see that garbage on Fox.  In fact, almost every time they interview, they have someone from the left and the right.
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by:leonstryker
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Guys we are getting away from the main topic. I am not blaming Obama for this, I am just asking if his speech writers should be put on the spot?
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>>Do these mistakes matter?

They matter to Republicans, but not Democrats.  See previous posts as to the reason why.


Like it or not - they will be attributed to Obama.  It's his job to pick competent writers.  

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by:Anthony Russo
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To get back on topic:

It's pretty sloppy research on his speech writers part. They should have fact checked a lot better than they did.

If anyone should put them on the spot it is Obama himself or his administration. Not the public media or anyone else.

Anthony
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>>Nobody likes to hear whining.

That is funny to hear.  That's all this president does is whine.  President Cry Baby.
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I think that it's between Obama and his writers.  I think Obama should take credit for it in the public eye, but no harm no foul.  It's his admin and he's the mouthpiece.  I will say this, I don't think these were made because of sloppy research, I think they were made to drive home a point.  
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Sloppy research at best, intentional at worst.
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