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Have a customer with an SBS 2003 machine the AD shows 33 users and 25 devices.  At the moment they only have 10 cals applied to users.  What do I have to purchase to make them legal again? Can I buy 15 cals and apply them to the devices in addition to the 10 user cals we already have or do I have to keep using the cals in user mode and buy another 25 to make it up to 33.  Also can I buy OEM cals or does it have to be the volume license ones now.
Thanks, James  
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You can mix device and user CAL's if you like. 2003 CAL's are no longer available, nor would you be able to buy OEM CAL's. You will need to buy from volume licensing with downgrade rights.

From: http://www.microsoft.com/sbs/en/us/licensing-faq.aspx

Q. How do I obtain CALs for earlier versions of Windows Small Business Server when they are discontinued?
A. If you need additional SBS 2008 Standard CALs, you will need to purchase Windows Small Business Server 2011 CAL Suites and use your downgrade rights. However, if you need additional SBS 2008 Premium CALs, they will remain on the price lists for a period of time. This is due to the fact that the SBS 2011 Premium Add-on does not include the same components that are in 2008 Premium and therefore the SBS 2011 Premium Add-on CAL Suites do not offer downgrade rights.
Q. If I want to downgrade SBS 2008 to SBS 2003, how will CAL activation work in that scenario since SBS 2008 will not need any CAL activation but SBS 2003 does?
A. If you have purchased SBS 2008 CALs and need to downgrade to SBS 2003 CALs, please use the following product key to activate your SBS 2003 CALs: KJQBH-XJ6YQ-THYJY-PVDCP-87QT6

Q. How are my licenses activated?
A. The Windows Small Business Server 2011 server license is activated over the Internet. If you do not have an Internet connection, you can follow the instructions in the Windows Activation wizard for calling a telephone number to activate. Windows Small Business Server CAL Suites no longer have to be activated. Note that if you are running Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on server software; the copy of Windows Server 2008 R2 technologies will require similar activation.
Q. If my business needs change, can I switch user CALs and device CALs?
A. Yes. If you have Software Assurance attached to your CALs, when you renew your Software Assurance contract, you may switch between CAL types. Unfortunately, if you do not have Software Assurance, you may not switch.

Downgrade Rights
Microsoft grants the rights to use any prior version of Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, regardless of which channel was used to acquire the license. Windows SBS 2011 Standard licenses can be downgraded to use or access older versions of the corresponding licenses as outlined below. Since SBS 2011 Essentials is a new product, there is no prior version, so there is no need to downgrade. For SBS 2011 Premium Add-on, no downgrade options are available.
Use the chart below to view available downgrade options. Locate the Windows SBS 2008 product in the left column, and then read horizontally for available downgrade options for that product:
Product       Downgrade
SBS 2011 Essentials       No downgrade available
SBS 2011 Standard       FPP/OEM Customers:
• Eligible to downgrade to SBS 2008 Standard. Customer needs to have access to SBS 2008 media and products keys.

Volume Licensing Customers:
• Eligible to downgrade to SBS 2008 Standard, obtain media and keys through VLSC.

SBS 2011 Premium Add-on       FPP/OEM Customers:
• No downgrades available.

Volume Licensing Customers:
• Eligible to downgrade to Windows Server 2008 Standard, obtain media and keys through VLSC.
• Eligible to downgrade to SQL Server 2008 for Small Business, obtain media and keys through VLSC.


For full details regarding downgrade rights see:  http://www.microsoft.com/sbs/en/us/licensing-faq.aspx

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So if I Mix the device and user cals how many device cals would i have to buy 15 or 25 because i have 10 existing user cals?
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Personally I would only buy user CAL's, which is the most common configuration with SBS.

You do not need to buy user CAL's and Device CAL's, only one or the other.  Usually you buy one user CAL for each user and with that a user can connect to the server from multiple devices such as their desktop PC, laptop, and mobile phone. In that same scenario if you bought device CAL's you would need 3 CAL's, one for each device. Most often device CAL's are advantageous in situations like a call center where multiple people share one computer. You could have 3 shift workers using the same computer and only require 1 device CAL.

Your exact requirements depend on your usage, but as mentioned you can mix both, but with SBS that can be difficult to control with the licensing manager.
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