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Multiple Switches - One Router

We have a small business network environment with 3 buildings connected by Cat6 cabling.  What is the best way to connect the following devices so they can all communicate with each other and the internet and with the highest throughput?

Building 1:
Internet Modem
Cisco RVS4000 4-Port Firewall Router
D-Link 24-port Gigabit Switch
D-Link 24-port 100Mbit Switch
30 Workstations

Building 2:
SBS 2003 File Server/MS Exchange
D-Link 24-port Gigabit Switch
15 Workstations

Building 3:
D-Link 24-port 100Mbit Switch
15 Workstations

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We have tried a few different ways of connecting the switches, but it seems that some devices can't communicate with each unless they are on the same switch - very strange.

Thanks in advance.
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1 do you have any vlans in system?
2 those 100mbit switches - do they have at least 1x 1gb or 2x1gb ports - to use for uplinks
3 are you planing to segment the network on different broadcast domains?
4 Best way would be to use router on a stick:

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/24479223/Router-on-a-stick.html?sfQueryTermInfo=1+10+30+router+stick

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/1853/Cisco_switch_802_1q_trunk_to_router_on_a_stick/

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/16455

JAN MA CCNA
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I assume you don't have any vlans set up. Are all of the switches using the default vlan? Are all of the workstations on the same subnet? I assume they are.

"We have tried a few different ways of connecting the switches"

Can you please give more details. This way we are not repeating what you have already tried.
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Hi janpakula and Soulja,

Here are some more details:

1)  No VLAN's setup (is this a good idea to have?)
2)  The 100Mbit switches are pure 100Mbit, no gigabit connections.  The gigabit switches are fully gigabit.
3)  Not sure about what broadcast domains are - but I'll assume no?
4)  Yes, all workstations are on the same subnet

janpakula, what would be the advantage of the router on a stick vs our current Cisco RVS4000 router?

Thanks again.
advantage of vlans would be no broadcast storms  - but with your setup it is more hassle then it is worth- i wouldnt implement vlans
Best way  configure you router to have 3 differnent ip addresses for each lan interface (within same subnet) and stick gigabit ports from different building.
in dhcp set up 3 sites with different default gateway (lan ports of router)

FOR EXAMLE
1
192.168.168.1-63
255.255.255.0
2
192.168.168.64.127
255.255.255.0
3
192.168.168.128-191
255.255.255.0

FOR LAN1
IP ON ROUTER 192.168.168.1
FOR LAN2
IP ON ROUTER 192.168.168.64
FOR LAN3
IP ON ROUTER 192.168.168.128


in dhcp it is option 003 Router - For setting default gateway



http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/windows/ntserverguide/ntsdhcp.html
Thanks for the suggestion janpakula.

I'm not sure if we could implement this, since our SBS server is doing the DHCP and not the router.  Would we still be able to tell the router to give certain IP's to certain ports?

Also, what advantage would that all have?  Just separating traffic?

Thanks again.
This is why you need vlans, because you will not be able to specify which dhcp scope gets assigned to which computer, because they will all be in the same broadcast domain.

I would set up a vlan per building. This way the only time the traffic would need to hit the router if if it's destined to the internet or another buildingk, otherwise the traffic will stay local to the building.

you can do it through dhcp console on server
just create 3 sites with 3 different option 003 ip address
You can use vlan but you dont need to if you use dhcp reservations
janpakula, I like this solution, but I don't think our router (Cisco RVS4000 Small Biz Router) has the option of setting different IP's for each port.  I think the router just has one IP - 192.168.0.1 for the whole device.
@janpakula

Let's think about this. The computers are all on the same broadcast domain. When a computer turns on, it will broadcast a dhcp request, the dhcp server will receive it, but how will the dhcp server know which scope to assign a address from being that all of these computers are on the same vlan.

If the computers are separated by vlan, then they would broadcast only on their vlan. The author would setup some type of dhcp relay to have the broadcast forwarded to his server. The server will then know which scope to assign based on the vlan that it came from.

I have this exact setup at home with 4 vlans.
I guess since we are limited by our hardware, the questions would come down to this:

1)  Should the 4 switches each connect directly to a router port?  Or it is better to connect them serially to each other and then end at one router port?

2)  Should the Server connect directly to a router port?  Or to a switch?

3)  Is it a good idea to implement Rapid Spanning Tree (RSTP) on our router?  It has this option.

4)  Would port mirroring on the router serve any useful purpose?

Thanks.
Soulja, if we setup VLAN's, would that mean each port would have a different subnet?

i.e. VLAN1 192.168.0.1, VLAN2 192.168.1.1, VLAN3 192.168.2.1, etc.

That might be over my head as I'm afraid of any stuff hardcoded on machines (printers, etc) that refer to something on the current .0.1 domain.

Also, I read somewhere that VLAN's are not really needed for <200 IP's we have about 60 in total.
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Thanks Soulja and janpakula!