Zolf
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Hello there,
i am planning to buy a Dell All in one PC. I am not sure about the graphic cards the two model i want to choose one from.the GCards are
Intel® Graphics HD 2000 (integrated, GT1) (UMA) and ATI 1GB DDR3 Radeon HD 5470
is this Inel one good for games like age of empire and pther strategic games like Rise of Rome,Civilization 5.
and what is the difference between this two monitor
FHD (1920x1080) WLED 23" Non-Touch Screen and Inspiron One 23 WLED 23" Non-Touch Screen
cheers
zolf
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MASQUERAID / Reubenwelsh:
thanks for your comments.
>>is slightly less powerful that the ATI but potentially the easier to replace.
you mean i can upgrade the GCard later if i want,if i go for the ATI.correct??
Exactly, it is a standard PCI-Express so you could buy pretty much any card avalible if you needed an upgrade.
Im guessing the Intell has that too though so it isnt really a selling point in my opinion.
Im guessing the Intell has that too though so it isnt really a selling point in my opinion.
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by the way can i have an Intel processor and AMD G.Card.what do you'll recon.
what is the difference between Quad core,i3,i5,i7. between the i's and Quad which one is more powerful
how about these GCards,which one would you'll recon
ATI 1GB DDR3 Radeon HD 5470
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6550A 2GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6450A 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
Intel® HD Graphics
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>>Exactly, it is a standard PCI-Express so you could buy pretty much any card avalible if you needed an upgrade.
i know it is stupid to ask this but please bear with me---- suppose i go for the ATI and not for the intel then if i want say in a year or 2 decide to change my GC, i will have to connect dell or i can buy AIO graphic card myself and replace it. i mean the GC for desktop is different from the graphic card of AIO PCs
Yes but AIO's are usually a pain to open and get at components.
I'm struggling to find a Dell AIO with a 5470 or HD 2000 option - they only seem to list the HD4270 integrated on the Ath II X2 boards, do you have a link?
Also if you're buying Dell but not in a hurry have you looked at Dell Outlet?
I'm struggling to find a Dell AIO with a 5470 or HD 2000 option - they only seem to list the HD4270 integrated on the Ath II X2 boards, do you have a link?
Also if you're buying Dell but not in a hurry have you looked at Dell Outlet?
All the graphics cards will be PCI-E connected but you may need to find a shorter "low profile" card to fit in the AIO case. That will limit your upgrade route but not hugely.
Again physically getting to the card on AIO's is the main issue.
Again physically getting to the card on AIO's is the main issue.
Hi, the I's are more recent, but the top Quad Cores would outperform some of the I's so it hard to say...
Most users are fine with an i5, the only reason i would go for an i7 is if i wanted to to virtualization on my desktop PC as they have support for multiple OS's. Personaly i chose a midrange i5 for my new computer a few weeks ago, the midrange and up ones have virtualisation support, but the i7's are slightly better but imo not worth the money unless your running very heavy applications.
Regarding the graphic cards, it depends what you want to play and how fast you want stuff to run... It sounds like you would be fine with a midrange card.
Any of these will be fine for your requirements:
ATI 1GB DDR3 Radeon HD 5470
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6550A 2GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6450A 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
Also, is this a laptop or a Desktop? you cant change your card in a laptop.
Most users are fine with an i5, the only reason i would go for an i7 is if i wanted to to virtualization on my desktop PC as they have support for multiple OS's. Personaly i chose a midrange i5 for my new computer a few weeks ago, the midrange and up ones have virtualisation support, but the i7's are slightly better but imo not worth the money unless your running very heavy applications.
Regarding the graphic cards, it depends what you want to play and how fast you want stuff to run... It sounds like you would be fine with a midrange card.
Any of these will be fine for your requirements:
ATI 1GB DDR3 Radeon HD 5470
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6550A 2GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6450A 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
Also, is this a laptop or a Desktop? you cant change your card in a laptop.
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i am also looking at HP AIO. they have 2 models which i am interested but with these GC options
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6550A 2GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
AMD Radeon™ HD 6450A 1GB DDR3 MXM 3.0A
Intel® HD Graphics
Dell
http://www.dell.com/in/p/configuration-compare.aspx?ocs=u240803in8,u240802in8,u240522in8&returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dell.com%2Fin%2Fp%2Fdesktops%3F~ck%3Dbt%23!facets%3D57484~0~300275%2C57481~0~300265%2C57481~0~300263%2C57479~0~300256%2C57479~0~300255%2C57479~0~300254%2C57479~0~300253%2C57477~0~300248%2C57477~0~313542%2C57477~0~300245%26p%3D1%26sort%3Dprice
HP
http://h20424.www2.hp.com/program/homedesktops/ap/en/find-and-compare.asp#/fnc/comparison/10,30
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Reubenwelsh:
thanks for your feedbacks.
>>Also, is this a laptop or a Desktop? you cant change your card in a laptop.
it is AIO
It's always easy to spend someone else's money
Neither site will let you customize, you have to take what they are offering. With the Dell 2320's they are charging you an extra Rs.8000 for a 2GB stick of RAM and a bigger drive.
RAM will be easy to upgrade at a later date, the HDD is fiddly to get out and you'll need to reinstall the OS if you upgrade - I don't know what the price of RAM & HDDs is locally so you will have to make a judgement about whther that's a good deal or not. With the Dell AIOs you can only fit one HDD in the case in but you can use eSATA or USB to connect an external.
The 2320 on the Dell site is a different spec, much faster and the HD 5740 will out perform the others because of that not because it's that much better a card. Again the benefit vs. the extra Rs.10500 is your call, given your list of games I don't really think you'll see any benefit other than the resolution you can play the games in.
The HP options with the basic Intel HD graphics will match the cheaper Dells but you have more scope to play with with motherboard specs, again the cheapest version on the HP site will do what you want but you are by definition with an AIO case limiting yourself on what you can easily change in the future.
Neither site will let you customize, you have to take what they are offering. With the Dell 2320's they are charging you an extra Rs.8000 for a 2GB stick of RAM and a bigger drive.
RAM will be easy to upgrade at a later date, the HDD is fiddly to get out and you'll need to reinstall the OS if you upgrade - I don't know what the price of RAM & HDDs is locally so you will have to make a judgement about whther that's a good deal or not. With the Dell AIOs you can only fit one HDD in the case in but you can use eSATA or USB to connect an external.
The 2320 on the Dell site is a different spec, much faster and the HD 5740 will out perform the others because of that not because it's that much better a card. Again the benefit vs. the extra Rs.10500 is your call, given your list of games I don't really think you'll see any benefit other than the resolution you can play the games in.
The HP options with the basic Intel HD graphics will match the cheaper Dells but you have more scope to play with with motherboard specs, again the cheapest version on the HP site will do what you want but you are by definition with an AIO case limiting yourself on what you can easily change in the future.
Thing with upgrades is you have to take into account how much your own time is worth... Personaly, i would gladly pay the extra 20-30% to not have to open it all up myself, reinstall and mess about (not to mention risk the chance of incompatible memory or get a Dead on arival item)...
but it all depends on your own budget. If you plan on having this computer more then a couple of years i would spend the little bit extra for the better graphic card even though you currently wont quite need it.
but it all depends on your own budget. If you plan on having this computer more then a couple of years i would spend the little bit extra for the better graphic card even though you currently wont quite need it.
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Hi,
In out and out gaming, the GT520m will be marginally faster than the AMD HD6650 and also offers protected audio path bitstream (if you wanted to connect it to a 5.1 surround receiver supporting Tru-HD, DTS-HD etc) as does the AMD 6550.
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In out and out gaming, the GT520m will be marginally faster than the AMD HD6650 and also offers protected audio path bitstream (if you wanted to connect it to a 5.1 surround receiver supporting Tru-HD, DTS-HD etc) as does the AMD 6550.
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RobMobility.
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thanks for your comments. which of this two is better or you would go for
http://h20424.www2.hp.com/program/homedesktops/ap/en/find-and-compare.asp#/fnc/comparison/15
http://www.dell.com/in/p/inspiron-one-2310-intel/pd?oc=u240522in8&model_id=inspiron-one-2310-intel&~ck=
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here is the detail spec for the HP one
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/in/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3352963-3352964-3352964-5080777-5090265.html
Hi,
HP uses new Core i5 processor (Sandy Bridge) and has a Blu-Ray Re-writer. It's also a Touchscreen device.
Regards,
RobM.
HP uses new Core i5 processor (Sandy Bridge) and has a Blu-Ray Re-writer. It's also a Touchscreen device.
Regards,
RobM.
Zolf: i would go for the Dell without a question, HP is moving away from the client market. And Dell's are great from my experiance.
The Dells spec is ever so slightly below the HP, but considering Dells support and HP's situation i would go for the dell no questions asked.
Just to give you an example of dells support, i brought the cheapest dell i could get my hands on a year back... paid under $350 for a laptop. I recieved it and one of the buttons kept sticking, i thought i would call them and see what they do, 6 hours later a guy was round my house with a new keyboard for it, installed it for me and gave me his phone number if i was to have any other trouble with it.
I know you cant expect that kind of support every time, but when you do get it you need to spread the word consider how bad mouthed support usualy is...
The Dells spec is ever so slightly below the HP, but considering Dells support and HP's situation i would go for the dell no questions asked.
Just to give you an example of dells support, i brought the cheapest dell i could get my hands on a year back... paid under $350 for a laptop. I recieved it and one of the buttons kept sticking, i thought i would call them and see what they do, 6 hours later a guy was round my house with a new keyboard for it, installed it for me and gave me his phone number if i was to have any other trouble with it.
I know you cant expect that kind of support every time, but when you do get it you need to spread the word consider how bad mouthed support usualy is...
Hi,
HP are not likely to move away from building PCs merely look at how that group are managed in the future - as a separate concern or part of HP.
Regards,
RobMobility.
HP are not likely to move away from building PCs merely look at how that group are managed in the future - as a separate concern or part of HP.
Regards,
RobMobility.
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thanks for the comments.
one last thing comparing the processor,ram and graphic card of these two machine,is it same,nearly same,more powerful then the other.
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>>The Dells spec is ever so slightly below the HP,
with respect to which component
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ic,thanks.
one last thing comparing the processor,ram and graphic card of these two machine,is it same,nearly same,more powerful then the other.
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what about in terms of ram
both have 4gb so no difference there
regarding the screen, i doubt you would see much difference more then the looks, go for whatever one you like the look of most both are good solid screens, but nothing special.