can get 2 different wifi radios to work - what am i doing wrong?

lenovo thinkpad z61m xp pro sp3
westel a90-750045-07

1) intel 3945abg
2) belkin wireless g plus network card model f5d701-1

I can't connect to my wireless router/dsl modem (westell) using 1 or 2 above.  I can connect to the router with another thinkpad without issue.  The problem thinkpad is 2 feet from the router.  What am I missing?  No error message, just no connection.

roscoe513Asked:
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kpmartinConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Looks to me like the Intel/Pro wireless is the problem.  That usually uses a proprietary program to configure the NIC So you need to disable that by changing the setting to "let windows control..." or run the intel/wireless setup.  hope this helps it's getting late...
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kpmartinCommented:
A common problem is in mismatched connection speeds.  Check to see they are both set the same; preferably auto.  Do that in the properties for the nic.
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roscoe513Author Commented:
I examined both nics and found no property that was speed related.  Any other ideas? I can see if the internal radio went bad, but both?
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roscoe513Author Commented:
Here's the details on the 3 network adapters on the laptop.


- Network Adapters

PASSED
- [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet (PASSED)
  Caption = [00000003] Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
  DatabasePath = %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
- DefaultIPGateway = 192.168.1.1(Same Subnet) (PASSED)
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=1
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms
  Description = Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet - Packet Scheduler Miniport
  DHCPEnabled = TRUE
  DHCPLeaseExpires = 8:07:43 PM 9/24/2011
  DHCPLeaseObtained = 8:07:43 PM 9/23/2011
- DHCPServer = 192.168.1.1 (PASSED)
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
  DNSDomain = westell.com
  DNSEnabledForWINSResolution = FALSE
  DNSHostName = LENOVO-A4
- DNSServerSearchOrder = 192.168.1.1 (PASSED)
Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
  DomainDNSRegistrationEnabled = FALSE
  FullDNSRegistrationEnabled = TRUE
  GatewayCostMetric = 20
  Index = 3
- IPAddress = 192.168.1.28 (PASSED)
Pinging 192.168.1.28 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.28: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.28: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.28: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 192.168.1.28: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Ping statistics for 192.168.1.28:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
  IPConnectionMetric = 20
  IPEnabled = TRUE
  IPFilterSecurityEnabled = FALSE
  IPSecPermitIPProtocols = 0
  IPSecPermitTCPPorts = 0
  IPSecPermitUDPPorts = 0
  IPSubnet = 255.255.255.0
  IPXEnabled = FALSE
  MACAddress = 00
  ServiceName = b57w2k
  SettingID = {59936C}
  TcpipNetbiosOptions = 0
  WINSEnableLMHostsLookup = TRUE
- [00000012] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (PASSED)
  Caption = [00000012] Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
  DatabasePath = %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
  Description = Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
  DHCPEnabled = TRUE
  DHCPLeaseExpires = 8:14:07 PM 1/18/2038
  DHCPLeaseObtained = 9:23:36 PM 9/23/2011
  DHCPServer = 255.255.255.255(Invalid IP Address)
  DNSEnabledForWINSResolution = FALSE
  DNSHostName = LENOVO-A4
  DomainDNSRegistrationEnabled = FALSE
  FullDNSRegistrationEnabled = TRUE
  Index = 12
- IPAddress = 169.254.104.141 (PASSED)
Pinging 169.254.104.141 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 169.254.104.141: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 169.254.104.141: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 169.254.104.141: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Reply from 169.254.104.141: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=0
Ping statistics for 169.254.104.141:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
  IPConnectionMetric = 25
  IPEnabled = TRUE
  IPFilterSecurityEnabled = FALSE
  IPSecPermitIPProtocols = 0
  IPSecPermitTCPPorts = 0
  IPSecPermitUDPPorts = 0
  IPSubnet = 255.255.0.0
  IPXEnabled = FALSE
  MACAddress = 00
  ServiceName = NETw5x32
  SettingID = {2821E}
  TcpipNetbiosOptions = 0
  WINSEnableLMHostsLookup = TRUE
- [00000018] Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
  Caption = [00000018] Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter
  DatabasePath = %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
  Description = Belkin 802.11g Network Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
  DHCPEnabled = TRUE
  DNSEnabledForWINSResolution = FALSE
  DNSHostName = LENOVO-A4
  DomainDNSRegistrationEnabled = FALSE
  FullDNSRegistrationEnabled = TRUE
  Index = 18
  IPConnectionMetric = 1
  IPEnabled = TRUE
  IPFilterSecurityEnabled = FALSE
  IPSecPermitIPProtocols = 0
  IPSecPermitTCPPorts = 0
  IPSecPermitUDPPorts = 0
  IPXEnabled = FALSE
  MACAddress =
  ServiceName = BCM43XX
  SettingID = {C}
  TcpipNetbiosOptions = 0
  WINSEnableLMHostsLookup = TRUE
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kpmartinCommented:
The speed nhogiation I referred to is available under system and the nic properties/advanced btw
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kpmartinCommented:
If that doesn't get you anywhere I would reset the router to factory defaults and reset the wireless client and see if it connects then reenable encryption.
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Aaron TomoskyConnect With a Mentor SD-WAN SimplifiedCommented:
What kind of security is on the router?
I suggest wpa2 + aes. If you need wpa do tkip. Most routers let you choose the wrong one as well as both aes+tkip which causes problems.
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roscoe513Author Commented:
It's currently wpa2+tkip.

Thanks for the help, I'm leaving for the day and will resume this debugging tonight.
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Aaron TomoskySD-WAN SimplifiedCommented:
That Ma be the issue. Try wpa2+aes.
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roscoe513Author Commented:
Upgrading the thinkvantage software allowed the belkin wan card to function.  Thanks for the ideas.
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