VMWare ESXi 5 on HP DL380 G4

Hi, does anyone know if VMWare ESXi 5 will run on a HP DL380 G4?
We currently have ESXi 4.0 on it and I'm looking at moving that and (a fully capable box) to 4.1 or 5 depending on compatibility just to stay up to date and uniform on versions between boxes.

I am aware that as the DL380 G4 does have x64 support it does not have EM64T (true CPU virtualization) support.

There are only 2 x86 (32bit) images on this box at present for redundancy.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)Connect With a Mentor VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
If you put 4.1 on that G4 server you will have issues!

Others here on EE, have tried and failed. We have a warehouse full of G4s!!

They do not run ESXi 4.1/ESXi 5.0!
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kiwistagAuthor Commented:
Scratch the 5.0 part - obviously not.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1764206
But has anyone had issues upgrading from 4.0 to 4.1? (Trying to find the update at the moment on VMWare's site however.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Unfortunately not, the DL380G4 is not compatible with ESXi 4.1 or ESXC 5.0. Although the DL380G4 has a 64 bit CPU, it has no Intel VT functions, the BIOS, Motherboard and Processors do not support Intel-VT.

If you upgrade you will experience issues with this server.

Unless you have a requirement to use the new features that 4.1 offers, there is no reason to upgrade.
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coolsport00Commented:
The "G5 series" is the 1st model to be compatible with 4.1 (& 5, for that matter)..that's the model server I have in my environment. 4.0 should bode well for you, unless you're wanting to delve into more advanced features in 5? (btw...I am on 4.0 and don't plan on upgrading to 4.1 till maybe...maybe next Fall). Concur with @hanccocka...don't upgrade if you don't really need to.

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kiwistagAuthor Commented:
Ok, I've already upgrade our DL160 to 4.1 as this will be our main box later on. As the VM guest version will still be the same (only the guest tools different) I don't see any issue (I hope) if we have to migrate (manually) between servers.

Oh, just a word of warning: NEVER install the HP tools pack onto a DL160! Found that out day 1!

Thanks for the advice.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Just ensure the Virtual Machine Versions remain the same! (and you do not add any 4.1 features!)
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kiwistagAuthor Commented:
Oops, other Server is a DL120 G6 rather.
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ukznmclCommented:
For future reference here is the compatability matrix which will tell you :)

http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/vmware/supportmatrix/hpvmware.html#DL
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kiwistagAuthor Commented:
True - but with HP there's a bit of a difference between official & unofficial :P
4.0 does work fine on the DL380 G4 but (as stated) without x64 support.

For example I can run the HP ESXi Bundle for 4.0 ESXi without issues whereas they aren't listed for 4.0.

I'll probably call it quits on this anyways. Thanks for all your help. It is better (and safer) to run with official/supported setups anyway, however as this isn't and works it may just be safer to leave the DL380 G4 as is for now :)
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Our comments are from actualy experience of using HP kit. We use lots of HP kit, which is no longer certified for use with ESXi 4.1 and ESXi 5.0, which fell off the HCL many years ago.

e.g., DL:385 and DL585 are excellent work horses.

HP/VMware just do not re-certify old kit, I wonder why!
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kiwistagAuthor Commented:
Strangely ESXi 5 works fine on a DL385 G1 with 32bit only guest support (the G2 series had VT capable processors)...
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
correct.
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