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Looking For An EE Expert That Has The Knowledge, Ability, And Desire To Help Me Modify The Windows System Registry/Directory For Windows Explorer's Missing Navigation Bar Horizontal Scrolling Bar?

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Hello. I have a question to ask you.

In my Windows 7's Windows Explorer navigation pane, there is no manual horizontal scrolling bar provided, only the obvious vertical scrolling bar. I can move the vertical bar separating the navigation pane and the content pane (box) left or right to resize both the navigation pane and the content pane (box). Of course, when I have a smaller sized window open and I care not to open it any larger for significant reasons, I need to have BOTH a horizontal scrolling bar for both the navigation pane and content pane (box).  

I know as I have learned that Microsoft removed Windows Explorer navigation pane's manual horizontal scrolling bar from Windows 7. This is one of Microsoft's well known simple blunders in Windows 7. This aggravates me a great deal each time I have to perform specific tasks. I am not interested in an alternative to Windows 7's Windows Explorer as this does not apply to specific conditions and functions I typically perform.

I am looking for a hack to the system registry and/or the system directory in Windows 7 to add the Windows 7's Windows Explorer navigation pane horizontal scrolling bar. It *MAY* not be readily available online as an answer and solution to this issue. I am asking if you can personally instruct me how to add one to my Windows 7 obviously with a system registry and/or the system directory hack/modification. I have to think with all the wise and smart EE experts in this forum that have the knowledge to assist me with this issue by adding a manual horizontal scroll bar.

Please provide your own detailed steps regarding a system registry and/or the system directory modifications with suggestions, hints, and tips; and/or *IF POSSIBLE AND AVAILABLE*, the best well written, detailed and documented website links hopefully with images and demonstrations along with the instructions.

Please reply.

Thank you!
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by:Darude1234
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Did you try to switch to 'List view? Then the horizontal scrollbar should be visible:
Listview from menu
should be like this
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by:John Hurst
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I probably cannot help with the registry and I do not know if what you want can even be done. But I do want to be clear on what you are looking for. In the picture below:

 Windows7-Explorer-Features
1. The main window horizontal navigation bar is there and alway has been.
2. The tree window horizontal navigation bar is not there. My explorer window is such that I hardly ever need it. Is this what you are wanting?
3. The breadcrumb bar replaces the tree navigation. It was certainly new to me, and it has taken me a long time to get it to work (it is NOT intuitive). But it does work, I do use it and I have ceased needing a horizontal navigation bar in the tree window.

I shall follow to see what other say. ... Thinkpads_User
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by:RegulaOne
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@ Darude1234:

Hello again. Nice to see you again. Thank you for your comment.

I see you are referring to the content pane (box) in your examples you have cited. Yes, Windows 7 does provide a horizontal scroll bar under certain conditions and certain views. Utilizing thinkpads_user's comment's image titled/named: "Windows7-Explorer-Features", this would be the phrase in red "No Scroll" for your clarity and understanding.

@ thinkspads_user:

Hello again. Nice to see you again. Thank you for your comment.

Yes, your numeral number 2 is the one I am addressing in your comment for your clarity too. I do have a need for a manual controlled horizontal scroll bar here.

Yes, I hope someone can help me too.

Thank you!
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by:John Hurst
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Here, i think, is the explanation of what is going on: Multi-Dimensional Scrolling.

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061102/dynamic-multi-scrolling/

I have my Windows 7 machine set up totally classically, so this does not work well for me, but I have seen it work on other Windows 7 machines.

Also, in point of fact, I need a Windows Explorer that does what I need (irrespective of what others use), so I use xPlorer2 by zabkat. The folder tree window in xPlorer2 does offer the horizontal navigation bar.

So I use Windows Explorer for File Open and File Save in applications and use it the way Microsoft designed. I use xPlorer2 for File Management, Move and Copy because the latter works better for that.

... Thinkpads_User
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@ thinkspads_user, Darude1234, & anyone:

Hello again. Thanks once again for your comment.

Yes, we are on the same thought process here. I am aware that Windows Vista has Mult-Dimensional Scrolling and it was removed when Windows 7 was released (actually this Windows Vista feature (and it IS a "feature" opposing the opinion of your author's weblink article you have posted) was removed in Windows 7 beta version). I understand you use an alternate Windows Explorer and a really good one at that. Yes, that is my point where I use Windows Explorer is for 'File Open' and 'File Save' most of the time too I was originally alluding too.

I am very curious when you state, "I have my Windows 7 machine set up totally classically, so this does not work well for me, but I have seen it work on other Windows 7 machines." What you exactly mean? I KNOW that even using Windows 7 in any visual theme if that is what you mean by "totally classically", you do not have Mult-Dimensional Scrolling nor a manual horizontal scrolling bar in Windows 7's Windows Explorer's navigation bar.

I have been doing my own DEEP research and found the answer and solution to this issue. Please see these weblinks:

1. http://xpwasmyidea.blogspot.com/2009/10/pain-that-is-navigation-pane-in-windows.html

...which leads to an application/program that is stated to have an answer and solution to this issue to this weblink...

2. http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ 

...and specifically where this is demonstrated to my issue see the webpage section : "Toolbar in Windows Explorer" in the weblink...

3. http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/features.html 

Now, the procedural steps simplified in symbolic style:

After installed the latest version Classic Shell application/program (NOTE: During the install process, you can select the options you wish to install in the "Custom Setup". To keep Classic Shell application/program minimalistic and maintain the original Windows 7 graphical interface design and appearance; just add the component "Classic Explorer" only.) -> open Windows Explorer in Windows 7 -> right-click on the main menu -> select/check "Classic Explorer Bar" -> click on the Classic Shell icon at the end of the new menu items in the main menu in Windows Explorer -> in the "Settings for Classic Explorer" window, click on the tab "Navigation Pane" (should be there by default) -> at the top of the items in the listing, there is "Navigation pane style"; by default "Windows Vista" radio button is highlighted; change to either "Windows XP Classic" or "Windows XP Simple" (your choice) [This will enable the manual horizontal bar in the Windows Explorer's navigation pane.] -> close and open Windows Explorer for the new settings to take effect

If you want to not show or display of the new menu items from the Classic Shell program/application,  right-click on the main menu and deselect/uncheck "Classic Explorer Bar". This will make the Windows Explorer appear more 'traditional' in design.

Works!  

If you care to comment, please do.

Thank you!        




     
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by:RegulaOne
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@ thinkspads_user, Darude1234, & anyone:

Hello again.

I need to add... ...Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the manual horizontal scroll bar to work with the 'File Open' or 'File Save' windows's navigation pane. Only Windows Explorer window now shows or displays the manual horizontal scroll bar only.

Thanks!  
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by:John Hurst
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>>> but I have seen it work on other Windows 7 machines <-- I may have misinterpreted what I saw, and I will have to wait to see another machine. To be clear, there is no scroll bar - that is not what I meant. Just that you could easily navigate to any folder in the tree.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:RegulaOne
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@ thinkpads_user:

Hello. Thank you for your comment.

I understand what you meant now from your last comment. Sorry about that.

Okay, I thought I would share with you a screen clipping embedded below that I have marked in red the new features I have selected to change with my Windows 7 64-bit's Windows Explorer using Classic Shell's Classic Explorer. The differences are marked in red from the default/original Windows 7 64-bits's Windows Explorer.

Again, thank you and I will close this thread now.

    Windows 7 Windows Explorer Modified Using Classic Shell Classic Explorer Screen Clipping Demo.
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by:RegulaOne
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@ thinkspads_user & Darude1234:

Hello again.

Obviously with this question/thread through my own deep research I found a program called Classic Shell's using the Classic Explorer component of this program that works the 'best' it can for my own issue. Therefore I am awarding myself the "Accepted Solution". However for your 'effort' in trying to help me by first trying to gain some level of clarity to my issue in my initially posted question that I may of confused you both as demonstrated in your first two comments from each one of you with its proper terminology, I am going to split the 500 points between the first two comments (250 points) since I cannot take the points to my own "Accepted Solution" per EE rules therefore giving your first two comments the "Assisted Solution". I find this the best and fairest means to conclude this question/thread.

Again thank you both for your help!
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Thank you, RegulaOne.  I do appreciate working with you. ... Thinkpads_User
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