need some career advice on database technologies / skills

I am a Oracle database developer getting a little stale on the skills, as far as broadening my skills base.

So I have the following skills that can get me a job
- PL/Sql
- Sql
- Unix scripting

and some HTML skills thrown in for good measure.

I've been going down the path of Java certification for like 5 years, just can't get into it and I don't do it during the day so I have nothing to drive me to learn it.

here at work they use Informatica, but now they're migrating to Microsoft SSIS  / SSRS, etc. Informatica seems clunky compared to a demo I saw of SSIS.

I briefly looked at Oracle ADF and that looks Java centric.

I also looked at ODIEE briefly so I suppose that's in the same league as Informatica / SSIS.

What I'm good at is data / basic screens. For a while I was good at Access, then when I tried to move to Java I was like, whoa, what is all this stuff ? it doesn't seem intuitive at all, that's just my take on it.
Alaska CowboyAsked:
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johnsoneSenior Oracle DBACommented:
If you are trying to break into something new.  A good solid foundation in something complementary and certification in the new thing you want to break into should get you in the door.  Then you have to prove that you can build on it.

Like you say, a solid foundation in Oracle and certification in SSIS, should get you into a place that uses both.  You are going to have to sell yourself, in that you can get up to speed quickly.
slightwv (䄆 Netminder) Commented:
My 2 cents:

Learning on your own and certifications w/o professional experience really don't get you very far.  It is all about what you can prove you can do.

I wise man once told me:  Find something you can do for 16 hours a day and make that your career.
Alaska CowboyAuthor Commented:
slightwv, that's good advice, but I am somewhat taking your advice: I am ditching my plan to become a Java developer and stick to what I do best: data. So I'm looking to upgrade my tools based on what I'm good at.

I like what I saw in SSIS, don't like what I've seen in Informatica, not sure what is ODIEE or Oracle ADF.

Even a barber needs to get new skills if everyone grows their hair long . . .
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slightwv (䄆 Netminder) Commented:
There appears to be a lot of money to be made in the Middleware arenas from what I've seen out there.

I've been a DBA for way to long to comment on any of it though.

I'm sure some other Experts will be along later.
Alaska CowboyAuthor Commented:
slightwv, ok, thanks.

johnsone, my first thought is SSIS, but then I'd be a little handicapped since it's been 8 years since I've done Sql Server (although I realize SSIS and Oracle is viable).

Is ODIEE where I would find Oracle's ETL tools ?

and is my observation correct that ADF is essentially oracle's wrapper stuff for Oracle / Java / web development ?

I have done some JSP with Java using Spring. Again, I find it way too cumbersome and so many options (Spring, Struts, Swing, etc., etc. etc.).

I actually lean toward Microsoft because imo they make it easy to do stuff, but the cowboy java guys want none of that Bill Gates stuff.
johnsoneSenior Oracle DBACommented:
You would be surprised at the number of shops using SSIS with Oracle.  I was just using it as an example.
Alaska CowboyAuthor Commented:
johnsone, ok thanks.
what I would do is to go to indeed and compare number of positions in Your area between Informatica,SSIS and other tools, You have to see the whole picture, though could be more clunky Infa can do much more with much heavier load then SSIS and compare number of requirements for both ,You'll see that they use Infa in almost everywhere when SSIS is mostly Microsoft specific
Alaska CowboyAuthor Commented:
oleggold, good advice, thanks.
Alaska CowboyAuthor Commented:
thanks for the tips, sorry for the delay in closing.
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