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calculate an area of Non Standard shapes

I wonder if there is a way to calculate an area of non standard shapes.
for instance, there formulas about calculating the area for a square,triangle,Rectangle,etc....but if I have a shape like a cloud , how am I going to calculate the exact area of it.
I am not sure if knowing calculus will help calculating those kind of areas?

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Saqib Husain, SyedEngineerCommented:
If you know the coordinates of the boundary of the cloud then you can use the formula given in this article

http://www.mathopenref.com/coordpolygonarea.html
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nanharbisonCommented:
This might be WAY off of how you are looking to solve this question, but this is how it is done in some old labs to quantify curves. You could start with a standard shape, like a rectangle, get several with different sizes, measure them and calculate area. Then cut them out and weigh them to create a graph of areas versus weight. Then cut out the cloud,weigh it and extrapolate off of the standard graph to get the area.
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aburrCommented:
"how am I going to calculate the exact area of it"
Unless you know the exact equation(s) of the boarder you cannot calculate the exact area.
One way to get the area as close as you want is to
copy the cloud onto graph pager and count the squares.
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nanharbison: suggestion is very ingenious and well worth considering
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jskfanAuthor Commented:
So, using Math Integrals would not be able to solve the problem.
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dhsindy SparrowRetired considering supplemental income.Commented:
nanharbison's method is very good.  I remember years ago we calculated Avagadro's number using a similar method in one step in college level chemistry.  Simple if you have an accurate scale.

Trace the outline on paper, cut out the shape and weight.  Weigh a standard shape and calculate your outline.
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Saqib Husain, SyedEngineerCommented:
Math integrals will only be applicable if you have a relation between x and y. Otherwise if you have coordinates then my method is the best. If none of these is available then the other two methods are appropriate.
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TommySzalapskiCommented:
To calculate the exact area, you would need to know the exact shape. This exact shape would naturally take the form of a function of x and y. In that case, the integrals are definitely the best way to get the solution.

If you do not have an exact definition of the shape, you cannot get the exact area.

If the exact definition of the shape is in parts (e.g. this part of the cloud is drawn by 1/3 of a circle of radius 3) then you just cut it up into pieces and add them all up.
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aburrCommented:
"So, using Math Integrals would not be able to solve the problem.'
If you do not have a mathematical form for the cloud boarder, the above statement is correct.
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jskfanAuthor Commented:
So how do the scientists calculate the area of country lands.
is GPS nowadays, the right tool ?
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Saqib Husain, SyedEngineerCommented:
Such land areas are calculated by coordinates.

With a GPS one can get all the boundary points and when applied to a formula will give the exact area "IF" the coordinates are exact.

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TommySzalapskiCommented:
The way they used to do it was to approximate the shape as a polygon, measuring all the sides and angles. Then you break the polygon up into triangles or use any other polygon area method.

Of course this does not give an exact area, just very close.

If they do use satellite images now, then even using coordinates is just approximating it as a polygon. So GPS or guys with measuring rods and sextants, it boils down to approximating the shape as a polygon.
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jskfanAuthor Commented:
Thank you Guys!
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