Do Animals have rights according to the Constitution

Posted on 2011-10-26
Last Modified: 2012-05-12
Sparked by THIS, I'm curious what people thought and what their reasons are.

Does our Constitution grant animals the same rights as humans?  If so are we not allowed to eat animals any more?  We can't segregate animals into categories of eat these don't eat these.  That's racism.  What are your thoughts?
Question by:CCSOFlag
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    The US Constitution doesn't mention food groups at all.
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    No,  PETA is over the top.

    While I agree with some of their sentiments, I don't like their methods.  If we were to "abolish slavery" for animals, does that mean the end of seeing eye dogs?  Cowboys would have to ride dirt bikes?  Lab rats could have law suits?

    The Constitution says all MEN are created equal.

    I do think it's wrong to use dolphins and whales for entertainment.  I'm sure some scientific knowledge has been gained by having some of these animals in captivity, but making a killer whale jump through a hoop or ride someone around in a pool is ridiculous.  

    To me, this is a moral judgment and not a Constitutional issue.  Having seen The Cove, and the carnage the profits from the marine entertainment industry are causing  I would be in agreement for an international law to ban the practice.   Maybe that's what PETA wants as well but the idea that they're basing their argument on seems pretty radical and I think it will turn people against their cause rather than bring them in.
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    by:Anthony Russo
    Not at all. The Constitution is for people only. Animals are not people.

    Eating animals is a choice made by each person.

    Sure we can segregate. It is not racism as all as they are not of different races. They are of difference species.

    To protect animals, there are laws against cruel treatment of animals and laws regarding specific species. Different laws for owning a dog as opposed to a tiger. None of this is part of the Constitution though.
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    by:slightwv (䄆 Netminder)
    >>Sparked by THIS,

    Cmon, It's PETA.  Anything to get their name in the press.

    Not PETA  (People Eating Tasty Animals)

    Comparing Animal Rights to Constitutional Rights is over the top even for them but a 'C' for the attempt.

    >>The US Constitution doesn't mention food groups at all.


    Will 'Grain' be next?

    >>They are of difference species.

    So are some of the 'people' I know...  at least they should be considered different.

    >>but making a killer whale jump through a hoop or ride someone around in a pool is ridiculous.  

    Having been to a Dolphin Encounter I have to disagree.  Every 'show' whale/dolphin helps educate the 'sheeple' of the world and probably protects more of their kind.

    Do you think people back in the day cared where their lamp oil came from?
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    From the article:
    "The chances of the suit succeeding are slim, according to legal experts not involved in the case; any judge who hews to the original intent of the authors of the amendment is unlikely to find that they wanted to protect animals. But PETA relishes engaging in the court of public opinion, as evidenced by its provocative anti-fur and pro-vegan campaigns."

    IMO, Peta is a fringe, radical organization that is more interested in staging publicity stunts than actually helping animals

    "two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) were arrested on 31 felony animal-cruelty charges for killing and disposing of dogs and puppies in a dumpster."
    "In 2003 PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in, finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and the Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent."

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    No they don't but I would like to see endangered species such as "killer whales" protected.

    -Muj ;-|
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    My uses for Killer whale Tilikum....

    Whale Steak
    4 slices of whalemeat @ 150 - 180 g
    Salt and pepper, preferably freshly ground
    4 onion rings
    2 dessert spoonfulls of finely diced green or red peppers
    1 dessert spoonful of finely diced parsley
    1 dessert spoonful of finely diced gherkins

    Whale Meat Steeped in Red Wine Marinade
    1 1/4 kilos of whale meat
    3 dl red wine
    1 dl vegetable oil
    3 ground cloves
    1/2 teaspoonful of coarsly ground pepper
    2 teaspoonfuls of salt
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    My use for carsRST...
    Feed it to a Killer Whale..

    -Muj ;-)
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    by:slightwv (䄆 Netminder)
    >>see endangered species such as "killer whales" protected

    By definition of endangered, aren't they protected?

    Sea World animals are WAY better cared for than most...

    Some horse species are endangered.  Does that mean we can't ride them?

    >>3 dl red wine

    Is that a dry wine?

    Great, now I'm hungry!!!
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    OK, so I'm not seeing any support at all for animal being protected by the constitution in any way.  I just wanted to get a feel for whether or not I was the only one who thought this claim was ludicrous.

    Thanks for the inputs all.  :)
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    I asked my 10 year old daughter, who expressed an interest in being a vetranatian, if she was going to be a vegetarian vetrinarian. Her reply, word for word, after some consideration was:

    "Daddy, I like animals, but they taste sooo good."

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    ROFL!!  See even kids know what's right!!!  You should put her on the stand to testify against PETA.

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