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Permutation

Hugo and Viviana work in an office with eight other co-workers. Out of these 10 workers, their boss needs to choose a group of four to work together on a project.

a. How many different working groups of four can the boss choose?
b. Suppose Hugo and Viviana absolutely refuse, under any circumstances, to work together. Under this restriction, how many different working groups of four can be formed ?
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a. P(n,r)=n!/(n-r)!
P(10,2)=10!/(10-2)!
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this sounds like you want combinations not permutations


C(n,r) = n!/(r!(n-r!))
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How to know that its a combination or permutation ?
as in your previous question


permutation distinguishes different orderings
combination does not

Scott, Tom, Sally, Sue   is the same group as Sally, Tom, Sue, Scott  

right?

if so, that's a combination

so according to the question part a is about permutation right?
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you tell me.

if the boss picks Scott, Tom, Sally, Sue  for a group.

is that different than if he picks   Sally, Tom, Sue, Scott?

it's the same 4 people.  I simply listed them in different order.
Does that matter?

if it does, then you want permutations
if it does not, then you want combinations
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what are the 2 formulas for permutation and combination
combination:
    C(n,r) = n!/(r!(n-r)!)       --- sorry I had a typo and misplaced a factorial (!) in my first post

permutation:

   P(n,r) = n!/(n-r)!
ok thanks. Can you please tell me the part a its a permutation or combination

a. How many different working groups of four can the boss choose?
does the order of the people in the group matter or not?
No
if order makes a difference, its a permutation.  If order makes no difference, its a combination
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I don't understand the split.

how is  http:#37033589  an answer?

first, it's just a question

second,  it's a repeat question of http:#37033507