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osCommerce v Magento Shopping Carts

osCommerce v Magento Shopping Carts

Which is better.  We have had osCommerce ( the CRE Loaded version) for 3 years.

We have been reasonable happy, although it is a bit cumbersome and does not look as modern or crisp as some of the more modern carts. To counter that we were quite experienced with it.

However, our WebDesign company has disappeared and a new WebDesign company that we are in discussions with are having problems trying to edit the previous WebDesign companies scripts, and are really pushing us very hard to switch to Magento?

Many of the old custom scripts have stopped wirking with ne newer versions of osCommerce and we also need to add new functionality & integration with external solutions such as Quickbooks and our sullpiers websites.

I know asking questions like this can start a mini war like comparing MS Windows or Unix to Apple, it depends on what your allegiance or experience has been, but selling product online is a serious business for us

Thanks for your input and feedback.
Robbie
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Thank you miked2004, tha si v. good feedback!

Some negative comments re Magneto

 (* there are many positive too, I just compiled this list from various forms so that I can sit down with my new WebDesign company who are trying to convince us to change and play devil’s advocate with them and see what they have to say )

Also, some of these comments may be old and issues may have been resolved with newer versions.  

And some of the comments are probably inaccurate and / or biased


The negative comments

Costs:
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Only the Community Edition, meant for developers only, is free to download and use
You will be paying them for it sooner or later
Only Magneto’s pay version will be PCI compliant. Buy their $500 version or pay higher credit card fees.
It doesn’t have many decent free plugins/extensions
Not recommended for smaller stores (or smaller budgets).
Needs a dedicated ( €€€/ $$$ ) rather than shared server.
If you want to add a feature that isn’t included, or isn’t one of the available extensions, then you’d better have deep pockets.


Upgrading:
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Upgrading and extending it difficult and dangerous.
Fixes need to be outsourced to Varien.
Magento not real “open source”
I also ran into a glitch where item quantities on the front end would not update. Nor would wish-list items or reviews post
Updating the cart to a newer version is a crapshoot
can’t help but to wonder if they make most of their money troubleshooting their broken and buggy software.
The basic installation comes in at around 6500 files!


Speed:
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Magneto is the slowest shopping cart I have ever tested,
is resource hungry
Slow response times from Varien who offered hacks which worked “some” of the time.

Use:
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It has an extremely steep learning curve.
template and theming system can, at times, be a complete headache/nightmare.
I’ve found magento (free) to be quite convoluted and over engineered.
What takes me usually a few hours to a day with a different solution, took me weeks.
I would not recommend it unless you have unlimited time to invest on the project.
over-engineered and needlessly complex file-system, themeing process, and above all –
It’s very unituitive. For example after you add products they don’t show up until you click the attributes, then “add them to your website” then you have to add display widgets to the home page.
There is barely any community and good luck finding the forum from their website.
Magento? Are you f’n kidding me? Magento is a nightmare. Poor documentation and awful support forums.
Any advanced functionality means modification of core files and then everything goes to shit.
While it is very robust and especially well-suited for managing multiple storefronts you might lose your mind trying to manage the obscene quantity of files
Magento takes the seasoned PHP programmer about two-four months to really pick up on after which said programmer can make a living by charging up to $200/hr for grueling and psychologically tormenting work. Only use Magento if you have a masochistic proclivity toward pain.
600 or more tables,
core files difficult to edit…
best out of box, but do not touch it.
works well on dedicated server, poor performance on shared sever.


Security:
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Probably the best cart from a security stand point because of the frequent updates an phone support
Most of the cart emails are flagged as level 8 or 9 spam unless some serious tweaking is done.

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I am quite technical, but I know nothing about Magento.

I am an engineer, networking, os systems, not a programmer, but I know osCommerce and HTML quite well. I would not have much of an understanding of php.

1. I there any good training materials online for Magento that would work for beginners, and move me on to intermediate.

2. Also, however, predominately, I would need to know everything a "Store Manager" would need to  know.

Thanks you,
Robbie.
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