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Sybase reorg running too slow

Some slow performance with our reorg comamnd when it running, when I check the log it says


01server  The 16K memory pool of named cache tempdbcache (cache id 1, cachelet id 2) is configured too small for current demands (state 1). Transaction progress may cease or response time may increase.
01server  The 16K memory pool of named cache tempdbcache (cache id 1, cachelet id 4) is configured too small for current demands (state 1). Transaction progress may cease or response time may increase.
01server  The 16K memory pool of named cache tempdbcache (cache id 1, cachelet id 1) is configured too small for current demands (state 1). Transaction progress may cease or response time may increase.
01server  The 16K memory pool of named cache tempdbcache (cache id 1, cachelet id 3) is configured too small for current demands (state 1). Transaction progress may cease or response time may increase.


I ran sp_helpcache which tell me a results below

1> sp_helpcache
2>
 Cache Name         Config Size   Run Size   Overhead
 ------------------ ------------- ---------- ----------
 default data cache 6000.00 Mb    6000.00 Mb  696.91 Mb
 tempdbcache         500.00 Mb     500.00 Mb   56.83 Mb

(2 rows affected)


Memory Available For      Memory Configured
Named Caches              To Named Caches
--------------------       ----------------
6500.01 Mb                  6500.00 Mb


****** Wil' the value above here is available cache allow to be use ?

------------------ Cache Binding Information: ------------------

Cache Name           Entity Name                Type               Index Name                    Status
----------           -----------                ----               ----------                    ------
tempdbcache          tempdb                     database                                           V
(return status = 0)

1> sp_cacheconfig 'tempdbcache'
2>
 Cache Name   Status   Type     Config Value   Run Value
 ------------ -------- -------- -------------- ------------
 tempdbcache  Active   Mixed       500.00 Mb      500.00 Mb
                          ------------ ------------
                     Total     500.00 Mb    500.00 Mb
==========================================================================
Cache: tempdbcache,   Status: Active,   Type: Mixed
      Config Size: 500.00 Mb,   Run Size: 500.00 Mb
      Config Replacement: strict LRU,   Run Replacement: strict LRU
      Config Partition:            4,   Run Partition:            4
 IO Size  Wash Size     Config Size  Run Size     APF Percent
 -------- ------------- ------------ ------------ -----------
     2 Kb      90112 Kb      0.00 Mb    440.00 Mb     10
     4 Kb       2048 Kb     10.00 Mb     10.00 Mb     10
    16 Kb      10240 Kb     50.00 Mb     50.00 Mb     10
(return status = 0)
1>


Should I know increase this cache ??? will it help to speed up query and reorg performance in my sybase server ?
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Hi,
Thanks for the explanation  I have tried with increasing Tempdbcache from 500MB to 1000MB  but I notice overhead also now has increased, why the overhead get increased ?


1> sp_helpcache tempdbcache

2>  Cache Name   Config Size   Run Size   Overhead
 ------------ ------------- ---------- ----------
 tempdbcache  1000.00 Mb    1000.00 Mb  113.56 Mb

(1 row affected)
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I disagree with my learned colleague jlsilva01. Increasing parallelism will increase how much work reorg is trying to do at once... which will increase demands on cache. There is no point do this when there is already not enough space in this tempdb cache.
Hi,
I have now increase the tempdbcache to 1000 and allocate 250MB for 16k pool, we will again run the same cronjob during the weekend and monitor it status.
250 out of 1000 is probably not enough. We can't say exactly what the right number is without knowing how fragmented your table(s) is/are, but 400 or even 500 is probably about right.
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