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I was just asked to start evaluating some different security systems for a office.  It will need to be able to control 5-12 doors and locks (right now they want 3 inside doors, two entry doors).  Mag card readers or preferably RF cards.  It will also have to log whoever is unlocking what doors. There also needs to be a option for the receptionist to buzz someone in for the rear entry door, which will be used for deliveries and hazardous waster pickup.  At this time CCTV is going to be a different project and will be handled by a different group.

It is for a surgery center that will need to prevent access to the actual surgery areas (large room with two entries), one supply closet (pharmaceutical supplies),  the rear entry way (that will always be locked until it is buzzed open or key card access), and the front lobby doors, that will be locked only when the staff wants it to be.

I have worked with Andover Continuum, but it most likely too expensive for them.  It does everything I would want it to, but might be overkill for this particular project scope.  I am guessing budget is $10k ish.
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I think you meant to post that for a different thread.  aliababa looks likes some sort of store front/ebay kind of thing.  While it would help in perhaps purchasing the gear, I still don't know about the various different systems, pros and cons on a particular system.
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Look into Lenel OnGuard.  We currently have it in use at 2 sites and plan on expanding it out to all 9 sites in the near future.  It has a video component and will accomplish what you need.  As far as the $10,000 budget, I feel this is an unrealistic number for 5 doors, let alone 12.   How many feet of cable would you be pulling?  Are you monitoring doors that are exit only such as fire exits etc?  Are you looking at door strikes or mag locks?

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It would be for the security locking and unlocking portion only.  Cables being pulled and the video monitoring portion is being allocated as part of a separate budget. So the cable people will run whatever cables needed (power or network) to whatever location and that isn't piece mealed from my own budget.

And I think I should have been more clear, right now they want 5 doors done, but there are 12 doors that could be monitored later on down the road.

I have also found a company called Brivo that sells a product called the Brivo 5000-8-s, which looks like it will handle what we want also.  I will look into this lenel onguard, but from what I have seen right now, it looks pretty good too.  As for the 10k, it does look to be a little on the skinny side, based on what I have seen so far. 15k seems more appropriate.
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Never heard of Brivo, but a quick check shows it seems to be promising.  Do you have a server for the system or would you need to purchase one?  If you need a server, figure 3-4k just for that.  If the cables are being pulled under a separate budget, you might be able to accomplish 5 doors for 15k.  The licensing and software cost will likely get ya though.

Will your doors need hardware changed out? i.e. key locks taken out so the locks (if you use strikes) cannot be overridden with a key?

If you do choose the Brivo, post your results/feedback on the system.

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Will do.  I have found a company locally that installs them and they gave me a small list of some clients who used them and this system to call for referral.  We will be running this on a server client relationship, because I will need to log and report who opened what doors on a monthly basis.  We have the server that is running the secondary DNS and GC will be running whatever software that will come with the expected purchase.

I believe the hardware will be whatever locks the vendor recommends for the build.  Right now the building is just a graded, soon-to-have-a-foundation, dirt lot.  So I would rather just install the correct locking mechanisms right off the bat.  Part of the costs of the locks too will be absorbed by the building contractor, because instead of buying the normal panic bar, handles, or whatever, he will put on cheap temporary handles and strikes until the security stuff comes in.

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OK, we got a quote, not including the physical wires to go between, their cost is 12k for the hardware needed for 5 doors (which included the strikes, hinges, handles, and readers), 1 workstation (they call it a server, but it is a basic windows 7 workstation that has the software installed, nothing special.  Since there are so few doors, i don't think it will matter), the controller board, the system software for the Brivo.  The system can handle up to 8 doors, and the boards can be added to it to handle more doors, up to 32 in this box, and boxes can be daisy chained if need be.

The only thing we do not have is a way to program the key cards.
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Are they just standard HID cards and readers?  if so you should be able to manually enter a range into the system as bulk.  Some systems you can even scan a card at the reader, go to the access log and add the card from there.

When they say server, is that where they are installing all of the software?  If so, make sure to add this to your list of backups to grab

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It turns out they are key fobs that are pre-programmed for access, and the system allows me to assign numbered key fob to a specific employee, so that name is logged when the fob is pushed up on the reader, or disable the key entirely. I can also program it to be active only during certain hours, so an employee who opens up on weekdays can be denied weekends or midnight, etc.  As for the "server", the quote they gave me included the workstation hardware with the software installed.  It looks like a basic install with a basic database config.  I looked at the backups, and the config file can be set to back up on a regular interval, so that shouldn't be too hard to have that copy elsewhere.  In case of disaster, I can grab any workstation, install the software to it, then run the import and be back up and running.

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Sounds good.  Once you get it in, post up your experience with it.  

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