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Delayed incoming e-mails to our exchange 2007 server
Random incoming e-mails seem to arrive hours after they are actually sent. I would say it happens 1 out of 20 e-mails. Only afew users on my network have complained.
I did notice that tyesterdays e-mail was received 4 hours later from a yahoo sender. I had them test with me this morning, the first one has not arrived (1 hour so far), a second one sent 10 minutes after the first one arrived in 10 seconds.
Any ideas on what might be the issue and if it could be on our side would be appreciated.
thanks
Wayne
I did notice that tyesterdays e-mail was received 4 hours later from a yahoo sender. I had them test with me this morning, the first one has not arrived (1 hour so far), a second one sent 10 minutes after the first one arrived in 10 seconds.
Any ideas on what might be the issue and if it could be on our side would be appreciated.
thanks
Wayne
Can you scrub and post a copy of the headers from one of these messages? They should show where the delay occurred.
ASKER
Please check options in outlook for a delivered message and copy the message headers.
http://email.about.com/od/outlooktips/qt/How_to_View_All_Message_Headers_in_Outlook.htm
http://email.about.com/od/outlooktips/qt/How_to_View_All_Message_Headers_in_Outlook.htm
ASKER
Sorry, we are on OL 2010, I searched options and do not see view options for the headers, still looking
Okay. I am about to leave town for a week so I invite any experts reading this to jump in and assist.
If you comb through the headers when you find them, you will see the timestamp for each server that touched the message on it's way from Yahoo to you. Look for the big gaps and you will find your delay.
If you comb through the headers when you find them, you will see the timestamp for each server that touched the message on it's way from Yahoo to you. Look for the big gaps and you will find your delay.
ASKER
Here we go - took abit - sorry....
Received: from nm14.access.bullet.mail.mu d.yahoo.co m (192.168.0.102) by
exch.AbleHC.local (192.168.0.206) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0;
Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:27:11 -0400
Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mu d.yahoo.co m with
NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud .yahoo.com with
NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.ya hoo.com with NNFMP; 03
Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 636109.40857.bm@omp1015.ac cess.mail. mud.yahoo. com
Received: (qmail 2964 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320326913; bh=jE0ffJsYNirjycv7mBQsMCq 16PH4URes9 XyE6Xoc8S4 =; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-M ailer:Mess age-ID:Dat e:From:Rep ly-To:Subj ect:To:MIM E-Version: Content-Ty pe; b=Q9rPxHjLpXSm77GxWKZfymX3 ZR7GpBZcdn NRni3MPUVb IX178W5tb8 nN7xYLl6MI vsR9bHpeki /OPsAVqeh8 lrs+LkBkik 3LptuIlMnP 5oIVO9gMkg dneUP/a8mD KAOn7ZwOlb r7F9xBLoZo BTP63xe5t7 oVi8E8+pLK 5Sdmo5o=
X-YMail-OSG: pu6.Do8VM1lNo.TDw_Ylw.ahey IdsLea63Zq 6Tm0e8XSUf w
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9pJfLyxmEp_Si09LtvYMdp.XXP Zo5ryM9wWV xpq2FZ0Dvh a2EK2nFqq4 WSX4
VuiJEp88wDC0l.kl6isHGTzMkI F.5JzRjTwu Q_tisLg--
Received: from [173.220.3.205] by web508.biz.mail.mud.yahoo. com via HTTP; Thu,
03 Nov 2011 06:28:32 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.11 4.317681
Message-ID: <1320326912.2957.YahooMail Neo@web508 .biz.mail. mud.yahoo. com>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:28:32 -0700
From: Natalie Halpin <natalie@tdconsult.com>
Reply-To: Natalie Halpin <natalie@tdconsult.com>
Subject: its me
To: Wayne Lasner <waynel@ablehealthcare.com >
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-1959626592-132 0326912=:2 957"
Return-Path: natalie@tdconsult.com
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
Received: from nm14.access.bullet.mail.mu
exch.AbleHC.local (192.168.0.206) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0;
Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:27:11 -0400
Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mu
NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud
NNFMP; 03 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.ya
Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 636109.40857.bm@omp1015.ac
Received: (qmail 2964 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2011 13:28:33 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1320326913; bh=jE0ffJsYNirjycv7mBQsMCq
X-YMail-OSG: pu6.Do8VM1lNo.TDw_Ylw.ahey
1B811mxJYhl9v7.ey2Eb.u.jdu
T2vxmhEKcG88gAk7w3al2Nslf7
NI8f_dP.1.V1TYegSWxf9jvo47
sLo0FINRDF1da1.dpNySD6LsjZ
FcEBLb5bbUkWl1fhqoOZDKGKZ9
.oBpEjSADRojrab880GCgQlzEH
9pJfLyxmEp_Si09LtvYMdp.XXP
VuiJEp88wDC0l.kl6isHGTzMkI
Received: from [173.220.3.205] by web508.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.
03 Nov 2011 06:28:32 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.11
Message-ID: <1320326912.2957.YahooMail
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:28:32 -0700
From: Natalie Halpin <natalie@tdconsult.com>
Reply-To: Natalie Halpin <natalie@tdconsult.com>
Subject: its me
To: Wayne Lasner <waynel@ablehealthcare.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="0-1959626592-132
Return-Path: natalie@tdconsult.com
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
Hard to read on the phone but if my time zone math is right, this message was accepted by your server less than a minute after it was sent. Are there any relevant logs for that time window? Is outlook just not grabbing the message?
Prolly my last chance to post for a week ands half. Good luck.
Prolly my last chance to post for a week ands half. Good luck.
ASKER
Actually, it looks like it goes from 6:38 PDT (9:38 EDT - which is correct)) to the last hop at yahoo at 13:27 0400 (assuming that is EDT) which is when my system shows it received. 4 hours later.
Maybe I am reading it wrong.....
Anyway - we have been dealing with this for months so I you can resume when you return - that would be great.
Have a good trip.
Maybe I am reading it wrong.....
Anyway - we have been dealing with this for months so I you can resume when you return - that would be great.
Have a good trip.
Are you using any local mail filtering?
Can you post headers from the message that was not delayed?
Can you post headers from the message that was not delayed?
ASKER
Here is one from Experts exchange on this case....
Received: from www3.experts-exchange.com (192.168.0.102) by exch.AbleHC.local
(192.168.0.206) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 15 Nov
2011 15:03:45 -0500
Received: from www3.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
www3.experts-exchange.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAFK5Xrp092521 for
<waynel@ablehealthcare.com >; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:05:33 -0800 (PST)
(envelope-from noreply@experts-exchange.c om)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:05:33 -0800
From: Experts Exchange <noreply@experts-exchange. com>
To: <waynel@ablehealthcare.com >
Message-ID: <331640497.11207.132138753 3696.JavaM ail.ee@www 3.experts- exchange.c om>
Subject: Comment Added: Delayed incoming e-mails to our exchange 2007 server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Experts Exchange
Return-Path: noreply@experts-exchange.c om
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
Received: from www3.experts-exchange.com (192.168.0.102) by exch.AbleHC.local
(192.168.0.206) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 15 Nov
2011 15:03:45 -0500
Received: from www3.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
www3.experts-exchange.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAFK5Xrp092521 for
<waynel@ablehealthcare.com
(envelope-from noreply@experts-exchange.c
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:05:33 -0800
From: Experts Exchange <noreply@experts-exchange.
To: <waynel@ablehealthcare.com
Message-ID: <331640497.11207.132138753
Subject: Comment Added: Delayed incoming e-mails to our exchange 2007 server
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
X-Mailer: Experts Exchange
Return-Path: noreply@experts-exchange.c
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
The only thing that strikes me as funny is that the last delivery server says that it's IP is a non-routable address. That on it's own probably wouldn't delay email delivery, but it could if you are doing any server side filtering. Are you using any filtering or scanning products locally?
ASKER
We use symantec's mail security for Exchnage - not sure why that would affect time to deliver, it would prevent or allow incoming mail based on filters.
I was thinking that there might be a greylisting issue, but I don't think Symantec does that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting
ASKER
Interesting? but I do not think symantec mail security does that unless it is built in and not a seeable option.
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Thanks for all the trouble shooting help - enabled me to narrow issues. turned out to be a hole in one of my receivers. The vendor helped me to correct the config to avoid the hole and the spam issue is gone as well as the slow response now that spma is not slowing it down.