Amnesty and fed funding

Should California lose federal funding if this is passed?

California considers state-level amnesty for illegals
http://azstarnet.com/article_48fae88f-aedc-59ee-b117-d97c19d9fb94.html

Nearly 1 million undocumented immigrants could live and work openly in California with little or no fear of deportation under an initiative unveiled Friday by a state legislator and others

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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
If you were to deport all of the illegal immigrants one day, the dirty work they do would come to a screaching halt in many states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
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Mujtaba_Alam_KhanCommented:
I am not for illegal immigrates working but the reality is the even with unemployment so high, you still will fail to see Americans getting down and dirty on some farms. Unless you get the State or Federal Government Force people to work. I don't see this situtation solving. You of course could have more Job loses as a result of getting ride of illegal immigrates. Its a tough one.

-Muj ;-/
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carsRSTAuthor Commented:
2011 California Budget Deficit: $9.6 Billion





California’s Illegal Aliens Cost Taxpayers Nearly $9 Billion A Year
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersffec




California’s nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year

Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost, estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical care for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have committed crimes are the next two larges
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I'd bet stupid people cost us even more and they won't pick vegetables for us to eat or do the yard work that many illegals are doing now.  Sound bite "solutions" to any of these problems don't work.
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carsRSTAuthor Commented:
>>I'd bet stupid people cost us even more

Agree, they voted in a community organizer that wasted $4 trillion dollars in less than 3 years.




>>and they won't pick vegetables

Why should they when they can sit on unemployment for 99 weeks plus?
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I think you have bigger problems to think about than throwing out a bunch of people who are mostly working doing jobs you and I won't do.  Getting rid of them would increase that cost of many things.
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carsRSTAuthor Commented:
>>I think you have bigger problems to think about than throwing out a bunch of people


Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost?
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317#.Tt0TdrJbCuQ


illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
What's this?  The Year of Slogans without Solutions?
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carsRSTAuthor Commented:
No illegals aliens would plug California's budget gap.  The rest of the country would save $90 billion in tax payer money.

Alabama is a testament to self-deportation.  

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/12/us-alabama-immigration-idUSTRE79B7GO20111012

The departures began soon after the law passed earlier this year..

Farm laborers have picked up their checks and headed out of town. Parents have pulled their children out of school ..

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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I suppose you read the part where it said FARM WORKERS VANISH and they are short on people to pick the crops at harvest time...  Of course, you don't eat or pick veggies so what do you care.
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TlingitCommented:
In Alaska we have a lot of illegal aliens working in our fish canneries, mostly Philopinos.  They come in from the Philipines every year and make a lot of money and then go home to their country after they are done and live like kings.  They don't pay any taxes because at the end of the season they fill out a form to get their taxes paid back to them.  I don't know exactly how it works but they end up getting a lot of their taxes that were taken out paid back to them.  They spend some money in the communities but they save most of it to take back home.  I think they have zero desire to become legal citizens because it wouldn't benefit them.  The canneries keep hiring them because they are reliable hard workers and it requires long hours to work in the canneries.  There are, of course, some local people who work in the canneries but the number is small compared to the illegal alieans.  They might not be considered illegal aliens since they do have to fillout government paper work to get their taxes back.  They must be here on a work visa.  At any rate they are hard worker but they do not contribute their fair share in taxes to the point that almost none of the money they make doesn't get redistributed to those who are less fortunate, which in the end to the liberal mind is not a good thing.  For some reason liberals love to confiscate everybodies money and redistribute it; it's one of their greatest joys in life, maybe because they feel they are accomplishing something.
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