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OK, so we have an existing Wireless network on our corporate LAN consisting of three Cisco 1100 WAPs working in conjunction with Microsoft IAS server.  Works great.  The problem is these AP's are spread around the building allowing coverage for the entire building.  We have a staff room where we occasionally have large training events for up o 30 people.  The staff room is covered by one AP only and 30 wireless clients will overwhelms the 100MB connection to the LAN for this AP.  So, I need to add a couple more AP's in this room.  The idea was to get a few inexpensive WAPs and set up two new training wireless networks that we can turn on during these training events and then store in a closet when not training.  I ordered two Cisco WAP610N Wireless Access Points only to discover they only work in conjunction with a Linksys router.  There is no Web GUI to configure them.  you plug them into a Linksys router and then configure them form the Web Gui of the router (at least that is my impression from speaking to support who were clueless as expected).  

Anyway, these will not work for us so I'm looking at other more advanced and more expensive Access points that I can configure.  The issue is DHCP relay.  It seems you can either allow the WAP to get an IP from DHCP or you can assign a static IP.  The issue I have is how do the Wireless clients obtain an IP.  My impression is most of the WAPs do not relay DHCP and they also do not act as a DHCP server.  If I assign a static IP to the WAP then connect a wireless client how will they obtain an IP address?  Do I need a Wireless router instead that I can plug into the LAN and assign a static IP then configure it to pass out DHCP addresses in a different subnet to the wireless clients?  The router will then route between the LAN and the new Wireless subnet?

The current AP's do relay DHCP but they are expensive and they are all using the same SSID.  If I just add another 1100 in this staff room I then run into the issue of splitting the wireless clients between the two APs in the same room with the same SSID.  I know this is wordy explanation of the issue and I've probably left out some key information but it should start the conversation at least.          
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Lavi ShiffmanConsultant

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I think you miss-judged the WAP610N.  These are excellent AP as long as you configure them the right way.

The WAP610N comes pre-configured to acquire an IP address from your DHCP server.  You connect the WAP to one of your LAN port and the DHCP server provide it with an IP address.  You've to look up this IP address in your DHCP table.  Once you have this IP address you open a web browser and type it.

At that point you'll have direct access to the WAP610N admin screens.

Using this admin screens you can configure all the features of the AP including SSID, Security and so on.  The AP is only an access point to the wireless clients.  These client will get their IP addresses from the same DHCP server.

Please have a look at the WAP610N users guide.

http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/wap610N

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I attempted to allow it to get an IP address from the DHCP server but it's MAC address never showed up in the lease info on the DHCP server which I assumed meant it never received or asked for an address.  All of the older Linksys products had a default IP which you could connect to by placing another device in the same subnet. 192.168.1.1 for the AP and 192.168.1.2 for the device you want to use to configure it for example.  Sounds like they changed this process.  I could never get it to show up with a DHCP lease though and could never get a straight answer on whether it would relay DHCP to wireless clients.  I had two of these and tried both and never had any luck.  Support couldn't get the brains past the fact that I was not plugging it into a Linksys router.  They just kept asking over and over again about the router.  I just sent them back and am looking at other Cisco APs.  The 1040 and the WAP2000 possibly.    
Lavi ShiffmanConsultant

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I agree with you that Linksys opted for a strange method with this AP.  Usually AP come with fixed IP.  That way you can configure it directly from you computer.
Ordered two Cisco WAP 2000's and they worked fine.

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Ordered different AP's that worked for my need.