VMware storage - HP MSA2000

I want to implement vmware 5 and i have 2 HP DL380G5 servers. I am planning on setting up some storage for vmware, and was thinking about the HP MSA2000. Now in order to implement this, what else would i need? Would the hosts connect directly to the MSA using SCSI or FC?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
It depends which model of the now called P2000, you have the iSCSI or Fibre Channel version.
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Cobra25Author Commented:
Which one would be easier to implement? I'm assuming for Fibre Channel i would just need HBA's for the server to connect to the P2000. Not sure what i'd need to implement iSCSI.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
iSCSI is less expensive, and easier.

To implement, iSCSI you just need a network, and I assume you've already got one of those, Gigabit Ethernet Networks?

iSCSI Software Initiator is free, and installed in ESX/ESXi!
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Here you go P2000 FC and iSCSI versionws available

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13551_div/13551_div.html

If you were doing the  Fibre Channel route, you would need two HBA per server, and two FC switches, basically building a storage network.

If you already have good Gigabit Ethernet Network, you can use iSCSI.
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Cobra25Author Commented:
I cant do direct connection via like SCSI i'm trying to cut down on costs.
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Cobra25Author Commented:
Is there a DAS solution i can implement?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
but it's not supported to connect to servers to it, I believe.

see this post

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Servers/Q_27464996.html

It's also not on the VMware HCL.
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Cobra25Author Commented:
the d2600 only supports 1 server connection so it will not work
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
it depends what your requirements are?
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Cobra25Author Commented:
2 esx hosts with vmotion and 2tb of storage
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
P2000 iSCSI version
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Cobra25Author Commented:
Looking for a das solution.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
look at the P2000 G3 SAS version that can be connected to two ProLiant Servers for VMware.
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
@hanccocka:  I've been getting conflicting messages on the P2000 G3 SAS.  Someone stated that you can use a SAS HBA and use it as shared storage while others are stating that you can only connect it as DAS to the ESXi hosts.  Do you know what the scoop is since I've only used FC and iSCSI units..
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andyalderSaggar maker's framemakerCommented:
You can use the SAS host connect version of the MSA2000 (MSA2012sa etc) (P2000 MSA for a later version) because it has a RAID controller inside, you cannot use a MSA60/D2600 etc because they are dumb shelves. SAS connect is faster than iSCSI and even faster than fibre channel but limited to direct connection hence 2-4 hosts. You hve to buy SAS HBAs for the hosts of course, not SAS RAID controlers.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Personally I would avoid, as I've seen them cause I/O issues with ESXi 4.1 and ESXi 5.0! HP still trying to figure out why!
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Paul SolovyovskySenior IT AdvisorCommented:
Andy: But can you use the attached LUns as shared strorage as you would with a iscsi or fc hba?  
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andyalderSaggar maker's framemakerCommented:
Yes Paul, shared storage, if you've got blade serers you can even share each LUN between every blade in an enclosure since there's a SAS blade switch. Just like iSCSI and FC you have to define which initiator can see which target.
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