VDI migration plan from ESX 3.5 to ESXi 4.1

Jerry Seinfield
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Hello Experts,

I will need your help with the migration of VDI infrastructure from 3.5 to ESX 4.1.

Basically, need step-by-step migration doc to migrate VDI infrastructure from 3.5 to 4.1, and any docs, url, business case from a company that had been migrated their VDI platform to ESX 4.1

Contraints, challenges, any thoughts would be really appreciated

Please since this is a consulting question, I would like to see different opinions, best practices, anything that you might consider is important to success

Thanks in advance
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Maen Abu-TabanjehNetwork Administrator, Network Consultant
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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What version of there currently on?

VMware View ?

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3.5 Version
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jordannet, thanks for the VMware links

Can you please also provide with a business cases of a company that has migrated their VDI infrastructure to ESX 4.1?

What factors should I consider to migrate a complete VDI infrastructure?
Technical, budget, storage, performance, etc?

What are the key factors to guarantee a succesfull upgrade of VDI?

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Can anyone please provide some input about VDI and or Vmware View licensing? cost? implementation, etc
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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There is NO 3.5 version.

Maen Abu-TabanjehNetwork Administrator, Network Consultant
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Maen Abu-TabanjehNetwork Administrator, Network Consultant
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@hanccocka :
what do you mean by there is no 3.5 version ? of What? he means upgrade from esx 3.5 to esx 4.1 but no means desktop like vmware view .. this what i understood
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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I asked him, what version of VMware View, he replied 3.5.

There is no VMware View 3.5
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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My understanding is the Asker, has asked to Migrate from

ESX 3.5
VMware View ?

to

ESXi 4.1
VMware View ?
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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But I'm still confused, because he has ESXi in Question? and ESX in desription?

I'll have to wait for Asker response, to offer guidance.
Maen Abu-TabanjehNetwork Administrator, Network Consultant
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i guess the question confused because VDI is mean Vmware View , however i thing to save cost he should migrate to vmware vsphere 5 , the vshpere 4 will get out of production by vmware (end life) and as i remember they will no longer sell a license for vmware 4 , also the vmware 4 license was calculated per core of cpu , but now its calculated per CPU which is reduce cost.

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Folks, I need some clarification here, we currently have 2 ESX servers running 3.5 version, and VDI, my goal is to buy another 5 servers or more, a server for vcenter, 2 ESX host for VMs/servers in prod and 2 ESX host for Vdesktops(vmware view)

With that said, need clarification on Vmware View or VDI versions, ESX or ESXi versions, pros, cons to migrate to 4.1 instead of 5.1, high level steps for the upgrade, licensing cost, and clarify when vmware will get out of production (end life)
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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Yes, what version of VDI or VMware View does you client currenlty have?
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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ESXi Version 4 is not End of Life!

General Availability - 2009/05/21
End of Support - 2014/05/21
Extended Support - 2016/05/21

So it will be supported for at least another 5 years!

http://www.vmware.com/support/policies/lifecycle/enterprise-infrastructure/eos.html
Maen Abu-TabanjehNetwork Administrator, Network Consultant
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maybe vmware changed the life time policy but anyway its will be on support until 2014 but its so near so we are in 2012 and remains 2 year , why you should upgrade to 4.1 and after its being out of support by vmware you need extra cost to upgrade to vmware esx 5? also esxi 5 is much cheap than esxi 4 because license  per processor not per core as previous , as i tried i bought Esxi 4.1 for customer , before i did installation i upgrade license to 5 then install 5 and its work smoothly without any problem also the version 5 solved alot of troubles with version 4.1 , version 5 is kernel only , its not on application level , i mean its don't require to have OS as version 4.1 which is depend on linux redhat , i mean its hypervisor
see here :

https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=HPVM09

http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/buy/editions_comparison.html

here is what is new :

http://www.virtualizetips.com/2011/07/whats-new-in-vmware-vsphere-esxi-5/

about upgrade from esx3.5 to vsphere 5 :

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1867266

http://geeksilver.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/upgrade-esx-3-5-to-vsphere-upgrade-your-vms-to-get-performance-jump-part-1/

wish that can help ...


@ hanccocka ... do you have any comment about what i said , i trust your experience.

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Hi Hangockca

ESX version 3.5

VDI version 4.0

Can you please provide high-level steps for the migration/upgrade to either ESX 4.1 and/or esx 5.1?

Please also comments on VDI and or VMware View version, and which one is better? Why?
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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VDI is now called VMware View.
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here is upgrade steps with this pdf :

http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-50/topic/com.vmware.ICbase/PDF/vsphere-esxi-vcenter-server-50-upgrade-guide.pdf

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/254835

you have to read before you decide , what you will decide depends on your company size and infrastructure do you have , disaster recover plan , budget ...etc
to know the difference read here :
vi3.5 vs vsphere 4.1

http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-11143
then vsphere 4 vs vsphere 5 :

http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2011/07/14/vmware-vsphere-5-for-vdi-desktops-licensing-cost-calculator.aspx

you will get alot of result.
you must read

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Thank you everyone for all the support

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