System Center Updates Publisher 2011 without SCCM

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to deploy SCUP without an existing instance of SCCM in the organization?  My intent is to use SCUP 2011 in conjunction with a WSUS-only hierarchy to deploy Microsoft and 3rd party patches throughout my multi-site domain.  I have found conflicting statements in the Microsoft documentation concerning this question.

Again, from end to end, can i use SCUP to create packages for WSUS to deploy in an effort to keep the listed 3rd party apps up to date....without additional applications.

Thanks
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George SimosIT Pro Consultant - IT Systems AdministratorCommented:
Hello,

As far as I know this is not feasible, I'm copying the system requirements from the official download place (http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=11940):

System requirements

Supported Operating Systems: Windows 7 Service Pack 1, Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2, Windows Vista Service Pack 2

    Windows Server Update Services 3.0 (WSUS) Service Pack 2 full or Administrator Console installed
        Must install WSUS 3.0 SP2 hotfix located here
    System Center Configuration Manager 2007 or 2012 Beta 2 or System Center Essentials 2007 or 2010 must be installed
    Screen resolution must be at least 1024x768

Sorry :(
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NOCAuthor Commented:
I saw conflicting statements in the product description on the parent technet page here and elsewhere:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh134742.aspx

They state pretty clearly that it's standalone.  I wonder what they are referring to in that regard.  A colleague glanced at the deployment docs and was still 50-50 as to whether or not this will work.  In other words, it's not as obvious as that requirements list would lead us to believe.  I think I need to see more sources or just start testing to answer this one.

Thanks for your assistance thus far.
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George SimosIT Pro Consultant - IT Systems AdministratorCommented:
Let me check it and get back to you, I've got some doubts about it...
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George SimosIT Pro Consultant - IT Systems AdministratorCommented:
Ok here is the outcome of my tests, you can install SCUP as a standalone product indeed and you can sychronize third party catalogs as well, also you can publish the updates on your corporate updates server (WSUS) but your clients will not be able to install those updates because the Windows Update Agent does not have the logic to scan for them.
The clients of SCCM and System Center Essentials are capable of detecting such updates (after you enable the in the respective application -SCCM or SCE-).

So as I told you in my first answer, this is not feasible without a "System Center Configuration Manager" or "System Center Essentials" server in place.
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George SimosIT Pro Consultant - IT Systems AdministratorCommented:
I agree, please close it as you recommended in the close request.
Wow I forgot this one, it's been years!
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Seth SimmonsSr. Systems AdministratorCommented:
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