Windows 98 backup solution

I have 2 OLD Windows 98 (not second edition) PCs that connect together via an old 3Com switch. PC # 1 holds data that both PC#1 and PC#2 need to access, hence the "mini" network.

I have been tasked to figure out a backup solution for the data on PC#1. The data must be taken out of the building each night. It's approx 25mb in size. I tried using a jump drive and an external USB drive. None of them were recognized by Win98. I searched for a driver for each, but found nothing for Win 98. Win 98 SE was as old as the drivers went. I then cracked the case and installed a second 10gb old hard drive I had, making sure the jumpers were set correctly (master/slave) and when I booted up, the 10gb drive was not even recognized. So, I pulled this old 10gb drive out and installed an old Iomega 100mb ZIP disk drive on the IDE bus, again setting the jumpers correctly. Same thing, booted up, device not recognized. I know both the HDD and thr ZIP drive work because they come right up on my XP machine.

Can anyone offer a solution to back this data up each night and allow me to take it off site?
thx experts...BobR
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itnetworknCommented:
Check out a place where you can buy an old zip drive that will be compatible with 98. Ebay comes to mind.
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
If you have another computer that runs XP, you can add a second network card to it to connect to that network and use the XP machine to backup the data over the network.  XP will handle two networks and allow you to do that.
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
You might have to install the NETBEUI protocol on the XP computer...
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I can connect Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 to my Windows 98 machine. You would have to adjust NTLM authentication on Vista and Windows 7 to connect, but it works (NET USE commands). So to the point Dave Baldwin made, and then for any machine you might have, connect it to Windows 98, collect the data, and place it on whatever media you wish. .... Thinkpads_User
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Dr. KlahnPrincipal Software EngineerCommented:
I would tend toward a smaller IDE drive in a removable caddy, in this situation.  Regarding the IDE non-recognizing problem, some older drives did not play well with two drives on the same bus.  I'd look at a 40 GB or 80 GB drive.  Then check the BIOS settings to confirm that both IDE controllers are enabled, and that all drives, master and slave, on both channels are set to AUTO.

And don't give up on a USB solution.  There are USB mass storage drivers available for Windows 98 release 1.
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nobusCommented:
i have used this universal driver in the past on W98:  http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/drivers/nusb31e.exe
so try it
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Chris BRetiredCommented:
Nobus's driver should be OK, but it is likely only to recognise a 256MB stick or less, so you might have to hunt up a small one...

What program is being run which would require preserving such old machinery?

Chris B
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I don't know what this person is running but I do know that there is a lot of custom software out there that only runs on certain old machines.  I rebuilt a DOS machine for someone last year so they could keep on running some analysis software that doesn't exist in any other form.  I hope they have a backup!
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Chris BRetiredCommented:
Granted. I have a 98 VM which runs happily on my Win7 machine though, so I would be interested in seeing if this was an option. Solves the backup problem really easily.....

Chris B
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsCommented:
I have also been told that there are some really old machines still running pill-making machinery because it is cheaper to keep them going than it is to get the entire system recertified if they replaced it with something new.
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Dr. KlahnPrincipal Software EngineerCommented:
... it is cheaper to keep them going than it is to get the entire system recertified ...

And not only on really old systems.  There have been a couple of questions this year on XP SP2 machines, and when the obvious question was asked, the answer was "It was certified for XP SP2, the programmers are gone, and it's impossible to recertify it for SP3."
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nobusCommented:
if it does not work - try if drivereasy finds a driver for you :  www.drivereasy.com
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bobrossi56Author Commented:
This win 98 1st edition USB driver worked like a charm. Thx folks!
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nobusCommented:
tx for feedback
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