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Windows Vista trying to install updates for other operating systems

I have been having a problem for several months.  My automatic updates won't install. They all fail.  I decided to install them manually.  For the most part, that worked.  I am down to 4 updates, identified by Windows Update that won't install.  I am running Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit version SP2 on a Lenovo T61p.   The updates that won't install when run manually give the error message "The version of Windows you have installed does not match the update you are trying to install".  That got me thinking.  I now notice every one of the updates, instead of starting with "Windows6.0-KBxxxx" start with "Windows2000-KBxxxx" or "WindowsXP-KBxxxx"  For example, "WindowsXP-KB075467-x86-ENU".  So ALL of the ones failing on the manual install either have a prefix of WindowsXP or Windows2000.  So the curious thing is this... why are they being offered by Windows Automatic Update service as an important update I need to do?  Should they really be run and installed on a Vista Machine? If not, again, why doesn't Windows update service realize I shouldn't be offered those updates?  And how do I fix it?
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☠ MASQ ☠Commented:
Try running the System Update Readiness Checker tool to correct how your PC is reporting itself to the Windows Update site
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956702
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Also, there are Lenovo-supplied updates that do not install. I have a T61p that came with Vista and now has Windows 7. Lenovo suggests update that I have tried to install and will not.

After running the System Update Readiness tool suggested, run Windows Update (not Lenovo Update) and see if you can do everything that Windows Updates wants. Please let us know. .... Thinkpads_User
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
Okay... Installed System Update Readiness tool.  Tried to download and install KB970235, Security Update for Windows Vista, using the automatic update system.  Failed with code 80070490.  An optional update I choose to install did install.  Current symptom is ALL security updates for Windows Vista fail to install.  KB items that are optional (eg hardware updates) do install.

Thinkpads_user.  I am only using Windows update.  Not Lenovo update.  It is the Windows update system that is failing.  
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Do you have a typo in your post? KB970235 does not appear to be a valid Microsoft update. I cannot find it and I do not have it installed in my fully patched Vista machine. Do you perhaps have a virus?

.... Thinkpads_User
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☠ MASQ ☠Commented:
Windows repair next then http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070490 looks like the System Readiness Tool couldn't fix the manifest error :(
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
My bad... Sorry.  The update is KB970238.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
That update is for Windows XP. That is probably why it will not install.

If Automatic Update is trying to install it, you may have some compromise in your system causing this. I do not have this one on my Vista machine either.

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=16356

 .... Thinkpads_User
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
MASQUERAID,  I looked at your manifest error.  The problem is that I can't find the Windows Setup.exe file on my Lenovo Rescue & Recover CD discs.  There are several SETUP.EXE files on the CD but none that appear to run the setup for Vista.  Many of them are in DRIVER subdirectories.

On the Rescue & Recover CD disc, there are folders in the root called I386, MFG, PREBOOT, RECOVERY, and SWWORK.  Since it is a CD, I question if Vista is really on it.

I have another set of CDs called "ThinkPad Product Recovery CD... 1 of 6". Has 3 folders on DISC 1.  MFG, RECOVERY and SWWORK.  No other info in root.  I see no setup or exe files so not sure how this Disc 1 of 6 even starts to work.

Perhaps this information will help Thinkpads_User or someone else get me pointed in the right direction of the Vista setup file so I can run Windows Repair and repair the CBS Manifest file.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
That machine (T61p, which I am using here) has recovery CD's available for XP and for Vista (but not for Windows 7). Both sets (XP and Vista) are 6 CD's (going from memory).

So it would appear you might be trying to use XP recovery CD's. Perhaps someone put XP on it and did an R&R. That would account for some of the confusion.

I am not sure what overall direction you are heading it, but if you contact Lenovo, they might ship you recovery CD's of your choice for a modest fee. Of course, that entails backing up your system and recovering it.

If that machine is a 64-bit machine (my T61p is 64-bit) it will happily run Windows 7 Pro 64-bit and that is an alternative to consider if you are having sufficient difficulty. Windows 7 Pro will cost more than recovery CD's from Lenovo, but it may be worth it over the long haul. I certainly have never looked back.

..... Thinkpads_User
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
Hi thinkpads_user.  Since my Lenovo came with Vista, I'm pretty sure that I have that on the recovery discs.  My issue is when I put in disc 1 of the 6 discs, there is no setup.exe file, or any other run type files I can see.  So, to me, it's less of an "is it Vista" issue and more of "how do I start the setup process so I can fix the install files on my computer and download updates".  Perhaps these 6 discs get "fired off" by running the recovery CD and somehow saying you want to restore your operating system.  What I don't want to do is accidentially start deleting my files, even though they are backed up.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
What I saw above is that you are trying to install an XP update on a Vista machine. I cannot see Vista by itself doing that. I had Vista on this T61p and it did not, and I now have a Vista virtual machine on this PC and it does not. That is why I questioned the recovery CD's.

Another thing that can happen is that recovery CD's get improperly made on the computer and that may have happened here (but I cannot say with any certainty).

I am not sure where to take you here.
1. You cannot install an XP update on a Vista machine and that is why the update is failing.
2. If you get good recovery CD's (the way Lenovo builds them), then they will try to restore your system to factory specifications, so you should be sure all is backed up currently.

... Thinkpads_User
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I have the same machine and I know Lenovo can supply recovery DVD's, so that is what I suggested (My post ID:37306743) .   ... Thinkpads_User
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
thinkpads_user's support on this was great and I've accepted his answer and awarded points as it was very helpful.

In the end, however, I ended up having to reformat the hard drive and recovering using Lenovo's discs to fix this.  For some reason, Vista was trying to install XP updates (maybe due to a corrupted file.)  It seems that you can use the Lenovo recovery discs (which I had) to reinstall your system, but not boot to Windows Vista so you can run the recovery console (and the Lenovo recovery partition had been removed from the hard drive.)  So I knew I needed to do some repairs to the operating system, but couldn't use the Lenovo supplied recovery disc to do so.  Research on this subject verified that Lenovo supplies their recovery disc with files to rebuild the hard drive, but not to create a true Vista disc that you can run setup from.

Again, thanks to thinkpads_user because with that help, I was able to sort this all out and realize I needed to wipe the hard drive an recover.
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GaryJayAuthor Commented:
THANK YOU Thinkpads_User for sticking with this for me.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
You are most welcome and I was happy to help you. ... Thinkpads_User
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