Way to change password without CTRL+ALT+DEL and Change Password.

I am looking for an easy way for young primary age students to change their network password without having to press CTRL+ALT+DELETE and change password.

Is it possible to create an shortcut to link to the windows change password, or a piece of 3rd party software that anyone knows of to allow passwords to be easily changed?
CommodoreSAsked:
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
I don't think that program will work as you think it will, Steve.

It will give the user admin rights, leaving them open to (potentially) the whole OS.

I think we're asking too much of it at that point. If the users are not admin, the best way (to ensure that they are not vulnerable to advanced features of the OS) is to just have to confirm.

I can't imagine they will be using that often any way.

I've added the close feature and just requires you to test the new version and see what you think.

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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Here you go, straight from the horse's mouth.

1. Open User Accounts in Control Panel.

2. Under or pick an account to change, click your account.

3. Click Change my password.

4. Type your current password in Type your current password.

5. Type your new password in Type a new password and Type the new password again to confirm.

6. You can type a word or phrase to use as a memory aid for the new password in Type a word or   phrase to use as a password hint.

7. Click Change Password.

Note
•      To open User Accounts, click Start, click Control Panel, and then click User Accounts.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_password_change.mspx?mfr=true
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sjklein42Commented:
You could run a simple script using the NET USER command that prompts for a password:

NET USER username *


(See NET USER /HELP)
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Sorry, I did not read the question fully.

As far as I'm aware (as far as software goes I'm quite aware) there is nothing that would be able to change the password of a computer that an infant could use.

It may be possible to create a piece of software to do this, but to be honest. If they are going to be using a computer. I would suggest teaching them early on how to use it to it's fullest capacity, for example, using the method above, which is Microsoft's way of changing the password.

Any questions or queries please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
I forgot to mention that these users (being very young primary school children) are very heavily locked down and do not have access to User Accounts in Control Panel.

Even if they did the control panel solution would be far too difficult for these students. It needs to be easy and simple. Probably a non-standard Microsoft way using 3rd party software.

With regards to the simple script, that could be a possibility. Does anyone have one?
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
I understand what you are saying, sjklein42.

But would it be a good idea to introduce children to this in the early stages? Learning this, I feel, may confuse them when learning languages. I believe it's best to ensure that they stick to a typically GUI system until their intellect has developed.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.

Ben
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
CommodoreS...

The whole idea of having a piece of software to change the password is advanced. I would assume that it is possible, but based on my knowledge; the security systems in Windows would prevent the software from having access to the hash files that contain the passwords, let alone change them.

What you could do is have a password reset option, that resets the password to something simple, so that when you want to change the password, you simply click this, and it will change the password to the pre-defined value.

You could set up a batch file (which execute commands within windows) to run the command that was stated previously.

I can provide you with such a file if this helps you.

Thanks

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
Anything with a GUI would be useful. This is also to benefit teachers and they can sometimes know less than the children!

I am not sure what purpose a reset password feature would have, as all users would end up with the same password. The purpose is to find an easier way to allow users to have a secure password. Its not very obvious to push CTRL+ALT+DELETE is where you need to go to change a password. Having a link on the desktop called "CHANGE PASSWORD" makes things much easier.

The other thing that concerns me is children using the LOG OFF and SHUT DOWN options in CTRL+ALT+DELETE.

I am migrating schools away from using systems such as RM CC3 and CC4 where they simply had to click a couple of buttons on those systems to change their passwords (RM managed to figure out how to do this!). That software is integrated into those network systems though, and that will not work on a vanilla system.

The following command was also suggested to me:
control.exe /name Microsoft.UserAccounts /page pageChangeMyPassword

But it did not work on the Win XP machine. I am surprised it is not possible just to shortcut to the windows Change Password box as it looks like an independent program.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
CommodoreS...

If you can give me some time. I will try and create to a program that will be able to change the password for the children.

Please Stand-by.. (I hope you realise that it is Christmas Eve where I am) ha!

Thanks

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
Hi Ben,

I am in the UK too, so no rush as the schools are closed to the new year :-)

Just thought I while post some problems now while I think of them, and while I have time before things get busy again.

I like your website.

Thanks,
Steve.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Nice to meet you, Steve.

Thanks for the compliment about the website.

I should have this application done within a couple of hours. I'll make it nice and simple for them, don't worry.

Thanks

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
Thanks for your help Ben. Is the best way to pass my contact details to you via the Contact Us form on your website?

Thanks,
Steve.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
No no..

If you have twitter, follow us on there and I will send you a direct message with contact information. I don't want to post it publicly, obviously.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Here you go!

I have complete a small application that, when you enter and confirm the new password, will change the password of the currently logged on user.

Keep in mind that I have set this application to use administrator credentials so you may need to confirm a set of administrator credentials when the students run this application. This cannot be avoided. Without this method, the application would simple return an error and nothing would happen.

It's the best I can do. I feel like it's what you want. I have provided the download link below.

http://www.freefilehosting.net/release_1 

Thanks, Steve. I hope this is what you were looking for.

Ben
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Also.. At least if the students need to change their password. You're aware of who has changed theirs.

Thanks

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
Thanks again Ben. Looks fantastic. I will test it a bit more later.

I am wondering if this would work to get around the Administrator Credentials issue?
http://www.robotronic.de/runasspcEn.html

The only other thing I noticed is it would be more useful if the program closed after it has changed the password, rather than remain running and having to click on the X to close it.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Yeah. I'll add that in for you.

I've locked myself out of my PC while doing tests with the software so I may be about half an hour while I gain access again. Although I should probably sleep now.
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Staffordshire_ITCommented:
Hi, Steve.

What's the status of this now? Is the software what you want it to be?

Regards

Ben
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CommodoreSAuthor Commented:
Still not fully had a chance to test it, but thanks for all your help with it. Its still a shame it needs administrator privileges to work.
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