saving the hard drive space

hi all,
 Generally we run many tools like pc clean   for detecting any waste stuff , in the same way ! We delete many things into recyclebin , so where do these deleted items stay in hard disk or pc, do we have process to delete them also and would it increase the space and performance of the pc! If so , hve can we do it ?  any bettr tools to install ? Please suggest
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
When something is deleted it goes to the recycle bin.  It is STILL ON YOUR COMPUTER.  If you want to get rid of it permanently, you need to EMPTY the recycle bin (right click and empty should be an option).  Unless your drive is FULL (or nearly full) having these files on the computer is PROBABLY not significantly affecting performance.  They might increase the chances of fragmentation a bit, depending on the files/file sizes, but in general, they are not affecting you.

I liken files (and programs) to books on bookshelf.  Having MANY books on the bookshelf doesn't affect your work speed... until you run out of space on the book shelf and start having to leave the books on the desk... then it makes things more difficult to work with and slows you down.  Similarly, if your disk is full - or nearly full, I'd worry... if not, don't worry.
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theSAPPHIRECommented:
1. When you delete a file, it goes into the Recycle Bin
2. To empty the Recyle Bin and PERMANENTLY Delete the file, just Right Click on the Recycle Bin Icon on your Desktop, and click EMPTY RECYCLE BIN.
3. you will be asked by Windows, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO PERMANENTLY DELETE... just click YES

The files are now deleted, and the space is cleaned up on the hard drive.

hope that helps

-sapphire
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raviv0731Author Commented:
Thanks for your replies. Insted of right clicking i cam do directly  SHift+ Delte while doing it !  i am not asking that IF you re read my question :"We delete many things into recyclebin , so where do these deleted items stay in hard disk or pc, do we have process to delete them also and would it increase the space and performance of the pc".
 
I am just asking after Deleting from Recylebin also where do those files go into ? if this is Hard disk, then do we have any process to delete them from hard disk and would it help us in any way?

Thanks for your time and looking forward for your reply.

Regards.
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theSAPPHIRECommented:
Once you delete these items from the RecycleBin, or use Shift+Delete, these files are all gone for all intense and purposes, and aren't stored anywhere.

Windows releases the space used by these files and allows other files or processess to write data where these files were originally stored.

Once deleted from your system thru the recyclebin or Shift+Delete. The files are Gone, as far as Windows is concerned.

-sapphire
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nobusCommented:
what i do in such cases :
1- run a diag on the disk drive  LONG diag (runnin tools on a bad drive can make things a lot worse)
2-when the diag is ok , and after evrything you want to delete is gone, run a diskchk on the drive
3-if that comes back ok - i run a defragmentation on it

***this supposes a backup was taken before starting
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Gerald ConnollyCommented:
I am just asking after Deleting from Recylebin also where do those files go into ? if this is Hard disk, then do we have any process to delete them from hard disk and would it help us in any way?

The files do not go anywhere, all that happens is the directory entry is created in the "deleted items" folder along with some metadata about where it was deleted from, and the original directory entry is deleted. It is only if you empty the recycle bin or do the shift/delete trick, are the blocks making up the file returned to the free (to be reused) list.
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Gerald ConnollyCommented:
As the others have said, its only if the disk fills up will you see any effect on the pc performance. This mainly due to fragmentation.

If your disk fills up regularly, it is much more cost effective to get a bigger disk rather than having to keep managing the space on a smaller disk.
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raviv0731Author Commented:
Hi All,

Sorry for being late. Thanks for all your inputs ! I would close this shortly.

Once again thanks for your valuable time !

Regards.
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MikeIT ProfessionalCommented:
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