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Hello Experts,

I have been administrating and managing Citrix all these days. Now I will be moved as a Consultant which is quite new to me. My main focus would be on Application Virtualization.

I have following questions:

1. How do I sell/recommend Citrix products to the client? Who are all the competitors for Citrix
2. How does Citrix outplay other products in terms of application virtualization. Example when you compare with App-V or any other application virtualization softwares?
3. Advantages of using Citrix over other products and also their disadvantages(hope cost would be one)? How does it going to benefit the clients?
4. I know there is nothing as of now to beat Xendesktop/Xenclient. Tell me if you know any
5. Share me some good documents, links, articles or any ppts if any
6. Should we go with Xenserver or Vmware Vpshere or anything else for server virtualization.

Thanks in advance,

Balaji
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Who else could better answer this 'difficult' question from a competent expert (basraj) as you Carl ;-)
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Agree with you mutawadi. Carl has 30+ yrs of IT experience, which is not even my age. You guys will be seeing more question like this from me, in the upcoming days :-)

One last question, before I can close this question and award points. How do you compare Vmware Thin app with Xenapp or App V. I read few articles, the only thing I see is Citrix is kernel based where as VMware not. So conclusion is application performance is better in Thin than Xenapp. It might be true or not as Citrix introduces more features constantly.

But do they support(App-V and ThinApp) seamless apps, printing, application accessed through WI, offline access, for variety of users (task users, mobile users, offshore users etc),  Netscalar AG as all-in-one which Citrix Xendesktop platinum does?
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Since i dont do streaming apps, from what i understand thinapp is comparible to appv and streaming profiler.  I may be wrong tho as i dont keep up with that part of our world.
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@basraj,

You can go ahead and award points to Carl if you wish. I have sent an email to a friend of mine who is knowledgeable about the differences between ThinApp, App-V and XenApp. So be alert to check this thread in a couple of days.
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Thanks mutawadi. I will post more questions, hope you will answer them first as usual ;-), so I can award you points for that.
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Masha' Allah, didn't really expect my friend from the other part of the world to answer this question that fast. I am quoting his answer:

Regarding your question, by far Microsoft App-V is the more mature product and provides several ways (and protocols) to distribute the apps to the users. Another consideration is when using Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 with RDS Session Host (terminal services) you have to purchase RDS CALs and with these App-V licenses are included. That this means is any customer doing Citrix XenApp 6.0 or 6.5, as they had to buy RDS CALs in order to be properly licensed, already HAVE the required licenses for App-V at no cost. Hard to beat that. :-)
So from a technical standpoint I would have to say App-V is the winner in my opinion.
Regarding performance, as per the attached paper that my friends wrote, App-V and VMware ThinApp are VERY similar, with Citrix Profiler (Streaming) lagging behind by a fairly large margin.
Not sure if I understood the second part of the question, comparing it to the XenDesktop Platinum license.
If the question means can I buy Microsoft or VMware only products and have the same functionality as I have when I buy XenDesktop? If that is the question, the answer is YES from Microsoft but NO for VMware.
...Microsoft is the foundation where Citrix sits on top. That means you can use Microsoft Remote Desktop Services Session Host to create an environment that will be exactly like XenApp, supporting seamless windows, published apps, a web interface and even a secure gateway like connection like the Access Gateway. Even local integration like Citrix PNAgent is built-in on Windows 7 desktops.
VMware on the other hand does NOT have a terminal services (RDS) based solution. That means no web interface, no seamless windows, no published apps, etc. All they have is VMware View that as you know is VDI based (like XenDesktop – NOT XenApp).
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Very informative and thank you so much.. BTW, if possible if you get any documents related to the above now or in future then please forward those documents to my email id: balaji.b84@gmail.com

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