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I'm attempting to get my head around the different Microsoft Licensing options.

I'm putting together a couple of possible scenarios for implementing a terminal server. However to keep things complex, there is an existing sbs 2003 server which will be due for retirement in approx 8 months, so we're considering replacing it at the same time.

To complicate things further, we are considering consolidating a number of site servers located in different offices (approx 3 - 6 additional servers) at some point in the future.

Scenario 1:

Additional Terminal Server - 15 Users
Existing SBS 2003 server with 10 CALS

Licensing Questions:

1) The idea is to rebuild the desktops as purely "thin clients". However they will still initially be full versions of Windows XP / 7. I would prefer to manage them via group policy, and have them as part of the domain. I assume this will require them to have a valid SBS CAL?

2) If we were to proceed down the path of keeping these off the domain, will they still need SBS CALS?

3) Assuming we proceed with some form of MS volume license agreement with SA we gain access to Windows 7 Think PC which we may use to replace the native OS. Again will these require SBS CALS?

4) If they don't require CALS, could we technically get away with using a single device CAL - that "device" being the terminal server?

5) We may have 2-3 computers we keep as fat clients due to the roles they do. These will obviously need SBS CALS.

6) See main Terminal Server licensing questions below :)

Scenario 2:

Additional Terminal Server - 15 Users
Replace SBS 2003 server with 2011 SBS - 15 CALS

1) Licensing wise - very similar to the above. Is there any licensing differences between 2003 and 2011?

Scenario 3:

Additional Terminal Server - 15 Users
Replace SBS 2003 server with 2008 R2 server - 15 CALS

1) I'm a bit hazy again when it comes to the CAL requirements. For "thin PC's" (EG Windows 7 Thin PC) do they require a SBS CAL?

2) For Fat Clients who are doing nothing apart from acting as "think PC's" do they require a SBS CAL?

General Licensing Questions:

1) Some form of MS Volume licensing for the Terminal Server licensing (OS, CALS, RDS CALS) would be the logical step forward right? There existing licensing (SBS, Windows, Office is all SBS)

2) How does Windows Server CAL licensing work in a terminal server environment? We will be having generic logins for each client - eg room1, room2. Do we need to have server CALS for the amount of logins, or the amount of concurrent logins? IE we might have Rooms 1 - 15, however generally there will only be 8-10 logged in at any one time.

3) If we were to go with Scenario 3 - i assume we would be better going for a per device CAL and licensing all the computers thus covering access to both 2008r2 servers?

4) Bearing in mind the possibility of scaling this into a virtual environment - any suggestions?

5) Do CALS count as product purchases for volume licensing. IE if there's a minimum of 5 products, do the CALS count towards a product ie is 15 CALS = 15 products or are "X amount of CALS" a single product?

I'm so confused.. dam Microsoft Licensing gives me a headache!
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