On the photography is ilustrated noise because of welding machine.
How can i do noise filter?
The ampitude is ± 30 V for rectifier voltage 24V in time period of 3 micro seconds.
The rectifier voltage curent max is 20A. tiggraph.bmp
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pr2501
8/22/2022 - Mon
Callandor
The best solution is to not be on the same power circuit as the welding machine. You should be able to isolate it with a UPS. If you want to build your own noise circuit, you should look for a low-pass filter design: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_8/2.html
pr2501
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I had try by ups, but no help.
It is that noise is generated ower the cables on secondar part of rectifier.
According to the data sheet I found for the 6EP1 434-2BA00, its input is supposed to be 340V-550V (400V-500V on the label) 3-phase, 47-63Hz.
How are you putting a 230V UPS on the primary side of the rectifier?
Anyway... disconnect the load wires from the output terminals, connect your scope to the output terminals, and watch while the welds occur.
If there's no noise then, you know it's being induced into the load wires.
In that case, shield the load wires and ground only 1 end of the shield.
If there's still noise at the terminals without the load wires connected, add filtering at the output.
As I said, the 6EP1 434-2BA00 (the item you linked us to with that google search) is supposed to use 400V to 500V 3-phase as input, not 230V single phase.
The picturit was just simbolic the real one (see above (the last one: recifer) is:
6EP -1334-2BA00. I did not expect to cause confiuson, i was yust looking for some
24 DC Siemens power suply.
Maybe more about procces: The welding machine uses to start welding betwen two points high electric potencial diference (around 10000V). This tension diference produces spark
betwen two electrodes an then curent begin to flow.
This tension produces high magnetic field into machine cel.
We have to stop machine for more days to replace all cables. We well do it next month.
For the test i have used testing sistem by independent recifer and two cables: one SHIELDED and another not. And i had put them together with "old" cables. I had made some measurments and the signal on the shilded cable was better. Still noise persist but much lower.
So i preume that shilded cables will resolve the problem.
Thank you.
Darr247
It wouldn't hurt to put those 1uF 'snubber' filter caps on all inductive loads that turn on/off often (such as across control relay coils), too.
I would only use the ferrite bead inductors/chokes on sensitive components that are affected by those few-cycle spikes being induced by the welder flux, if there is any left once the wires are shielded.