Ssd in hp microserver: howto install?

Please advise howto install ssd s in hp microserver.
I have brackets but they don t fit, brackers in Microserver don t fit either.
I could use second motherboard/sata -cable but it has to be possible to fit them in the (non hotplug holders?

Thx for your input.
J.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
the easiest way is to use a Sharkoon 4 or 6 bay and use in the cdrom slot.

here you are

http://andysworld.org.uk/2011/08/25/skynet-ssdsupersan-hp-proliant-microserver-with-a-6-bay-hot-plug-sata-drive-bay/

and then cable from the eSATA port on the rear or CDROM SATA port on the motherboard. Power for the Sharkoon 4 or 6 bay taken from the cdrom supply.
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cwstad2Commented:
If it doesnt fit within on the brackets then can you just sit it ontop of another device. you may want to consider mounting it on some sticky pads. as they are very light and easy to mount. Mine just sits on top of my DVD drive
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
I really would like them to fit into the brackets/slots. I might add more ssd's and then you can not use the cable of the cd-rom anymore.
ssd
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Alan HendersonRetired marine engineerCommented:
Velcro pads do the trick too.

:)
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
But if you add another lei raid card you can connect a Max of eight adds and leave the bays for sata disks
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Don't need other sata disks, I have a NAS with 5 disks so don't need internal disks in Microserver.
Btw, I don't have extra sata cables to connect the ssd drive.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
It's very difficult to align the disks with the hot plug backplane

Use a sharkoon or stick on cdrom dvdrom with Velcro blue tack gaffer tape
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
ESATS cable from the rear will suffice
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Could you clarify Hanccocka? What do you mean by ESATS cable from the rear?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Sorry auto correction.

Connect an eSATA cable from the rear of microserver to solid state disk 75cm cable works thread through the case.
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
That's my problem, I don't have esata cables and therefore would like to use the available equipment.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Save yourself time and get one for a euro...

Been where you are unless you can purchase a WD velociraptor sledge from a 10k disk drive they also fit but expensive second hand on ebay
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Ok, but I'm not really into these things. Which one to buy: this one i guess?
http://www.allekabels.nl/ATA-/-SATA-Kabels/1763/1019579/SATA-KABEL-3GBPS.html
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
I dont see any Esata cables on that site to SATA
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Are you sure it is esata to sata? I found 1 cable (only 1 but better then none) delivered with my microserver. Doesn't look like the link you sent. It fits my ssd .... Confusing.
Hereby the pictures of my ssd + cable (looks like the one I found/my link?):
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
ssd1
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
ssd2
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
yes, because this connects to the external eSATA port, to a SATA interface, if you want to use the external eSATA interface on the rear of the case.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
yes, they are SATA to SATA.
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Ah, ok, there is an external esata on the rear of the case .... Servers are on my attic and difficult to reach, so I didn't have a look at them yet .... So these ones are for internal use then ...
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
were do you want to connect the SSD to?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Correct.

SATA internal.

eSATA external.

e- sata external sata
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Perfect, since I have the brackets, I'll install the disk on location of CD-rom (which I never use because of RAC). So I can buy the cables I mentioned and use available power cable.
Thanks again Hanccoka!
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
no problems.
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andyalderCommented:
What is a sharkoon?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
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andyalderCommented:
No way, there's a flashing GIF on that site that gave me a fit last time I clicked it. You should have a NSFW warning on that. Epileptics beware.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
its a 6 bay device which you can easily insert 4 or 6 Hot plug SSDs! for 30 euros.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
fits in a standard cdrom, 5.25 inc bay.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
I d need a powerconvertercable too! Nobody mentioned that ...
Just sata cable wont work.
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andyalderCommented:
Might get one for my PC, thanks.
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
The Sharkoon thing looks really cool actually.
So you can tweak ESX to see it as central storage/ISCSI and share it with other ESX-es?
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
I'd might buy one but for now I stick to my 1 disk.

For power, I'd need this, I guess?

http://www.allekabels.nl/ATA-/-SATA-Kabels/1763/1097348/SATA-kabel-met-voeding.html
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
this is better

http://www.allekabels.nl/ATA-/-SATA-Kabels/1763/1082629/Molex-naar-15p-Sata-haaks-power-kabel.html

if using the SSD standalone.

otherwise a standard molex connector will power the Sharkoon , and they are very good.

It is possible to create a VIrtual SAN, and use the SSD storage for other ESX servers.
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Ok, so I I need to buy these cables extra ....

What you mention
>>It is possible to create a VIrtual SAN, and use the SSD storage for other ESX servers.

Wow, now I'm impressed. So you run the Sharkoon on a Proliant with ESX running on it and you can run a virtual san on it???

 Please tell me more, I'll go for that!
Saw your post  http://andysworld.org.uk/2011/08/25/skynet-ssdsupersan-hp-proliant-microserver-with-a-6-bay-hot-plug-sata-drive-bay/
... so steps to configure:
1.I buy the Sharkoon
2.Plug it into the Microserver (where DVD-drive is right now, will power of CD-drive be sufficient?) and there's a SATA connection I assume?
3.configure the BIOS according your article
4.ESX will see ... yes, what will it see actually, how do you present the LUN's to the ESX-es ...?

J.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
yes, CD power will be fine to power the SSD, the 6 bay unit needs two x power cables, if you have ALL 6 SSDs in use!

ESX just sees a SATA datastore.

As for Virtual SAN, that's another very long question!
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janhoedtAuthor Commented:
Ok, I'll post a new item for that then. Cheers.
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