how to stop spam on yahoo e-mail?

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I go into signing up for a trusted site. I got past the point of the e-mail address and stopped when I realized there was a payment involved. Now, about 6-8 inbox messages a day and about 30-35 spam messages a day in the spam or junk box. I tried "unsubscribe" but many of the links won't open, or they take you to a site other than the one that claimed to have delivered you the message to begin with.
This is a yahoo e-mail address. I can always close it, as only 4-5 people even know it.
But, is there a way to get off these mailing lists?
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Yahoo mail has Options and in the Options you can find spam filtering. Make a note of the addresses and then do two things: (1) increase the overall spam filter level - it may be off or set to "low"; and (2) blacklist the addresses.

If you are in Yahoo Web Mail, you can normally select (not open) the email and mark it as spam.

.... Thinkpads_User
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First, upgrade to Yahoo PLUS for $19 a year. It has so many additional advantages to the free e-mail that it's well worth it.

Here's one:  DISPOSABLE addresses.

You can create a base name, like  "thinkpads2012" (sorry, but this is a good base address for an example)

Now, you can have hundreds of disposable e-mail addresses based on "thinkpads2012" - one for each site that you think might give out your e-mail address for example.

When you go to your "trusted site.com" go into your yahoo mail "options" and add to your disposable address list "trusted_site" (for example) before you give them the e-mail address.

Now you'll have an e-mail address called:

   thinkpads2012-trusted_site@yahoo.com

Give this to them, you'll get mail back to you, no problem, and when you respond to an e-mail sent to "thinkpads2012-truste_site" the yahoo mail program will insert that as the "FROM" address in your reply e-mail.

I have about 100 of these disposable e-mail addresses, and if I start getting SPAM to one of them, I know immediately where the original source came from, and all I have to do is delete the disposable e-mail address, and all the spam that went with it, and I'll no longer get any of their junk mail.

THere are lots of other things you can do with the yahoo mail-plus account, like have it get e-mail from all your other e-mail accounts that can forward to your yahoo account. If you add that other account to the yahoo plus account, when a message comes in for one of the other e-mail accounts, and you wish to "reply" it will fill in that other e-mail address as the FROM address, and the originator won't know that you're using yahoo for that other e-mail address. I do this without about 8 mailboxes at my ISP that are just one step above disposable.

Last, create a single SECONDARY e-mail for your yahoo plus account and NEVER give out your primary login e-mail address. Use the primary address for account management and login ONLY. Start using your secondary for friends, and keep your primary yahoo e-mail address to yourself so you never have to give it up because it's being hammered by spammers.

You can also setup filters, add folders, redirect incoming mail to folders, etc., but the disposable addresses is  fantastic solution for signing up for stuff, or giving an e-mail address to some vendor just to look at a sample program, or order a product.

If you do get spam to one of the disposable addresses, use it to unsubscribe, then delete the disposable address. This will no doubt add your disposable address to the "Gee,there's actually a person at this address, let's send more spam..." -- but alas, you've spammed the spammers with a short-lived disposable address that is about as useless as they get, and it will help tie up their spam delivery system if for only a few milliseconds on each spam mailing. It adds up, and you feel better !!

One of my disposable addresses is called "noSPAM" so in your case it would become thinkpads2012-NOSPAM@yahoo.com.  Now if you get SPAM at that address, that really sends a message that these spamming outfits are just processing e-mail lists with total abandon and care nothing about the people they are bothering with their spam.  I redirect messages to my NOSPAM disposable address to a folder called "NOSPAM" and take a look now and then to see what bozos are using it to peddle some scheme. I've been told that I'm entitled to millions of dollars from a deceased banker in Uganada and elsewhere if only I'd respond with my bank account number, name, social security number, date of birth, etc. I mean really, are there really people that gullible who would give out this information because they were told they can help get millions out of a bank account in Africa. Lately they have been sending these very personal please for help to "undisclosed recipients" -<<grin>>

Jeff
My Yahoo mail box is my 4th least used, behind OE and 2 hotmail addresses.
I can live without it, if I can not figure out the above directions.
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Commented:
Spam filtering doesn't really work. Reporting that something is SPAM doesn't mean it will be treated as SPAM. And things you didn't think were SPAM may end up being considered SPAM. Automatic detection of SPAM is always going to create problems.

The only reliable way to stop your e-mail address from ending up on lists as a result of you using it to buy something is to use Disposable e-mail addresses -- it works every time.
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>>> The only reliable way to stop your e-mail address from ending up on lists as a result of you using it to buy something is to use Disposable e-mail addresses .

Two things:  (1) Not true. I have been using the same email address since 1996 and buy things using that address; and (2) a number of legitimate vendors will not sell to you online if you only have a disposable address.

Spam filtering *does* work, but it needs frequent attention to keep it in top shape.

.... Thinkpads_User

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Thinkpads_user: Who's email service are you using that has a functional spam filter? I've been using yahoo now for over 10 years, and it's never had a very good hit rate. Yes, it filters some spam, but I still get spam that looks good, to my original e-mail address, but with the disposable addresses, they are like honey pots for spammers.

Yes, if only all those who ask for an e-mail address were "legitimate" -- unfortunately, that is becoming less and less likely.

What vendor have you used that won't accept a disposable address?  Some won't accept yahoo e-mail addresses,  but your comment begs the question:  if you don't use disposable yahoo addresses, how is it that you can offer a reliable opinion on what reliable vendors do with disposable addresses ?

Anyway, the user wanted to curb spam, and a filter from yahoo doesn't do it. Sorry, that's from experience. Others may have better luck with yahoo's spam filtering, but basically, the only real filter I put in that works is to ignore all mail from china with a domain of cn.
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I have Yahoo Mail via my home cable ISP. That is not an email address that I use, but I set up the spam rules in Yahoo and monitor it with POP Tray and there is never any email there. I do admit the spam rules I have there are ruthless.

I have Sympatico Mail in Toronto and that uses Hotmail. I get no spam there, but again I do not use the email address and the spam rules are ruthless. I monitor this email address with POP Tray.

I have a Hotmail Account (from well before the time Microsoft bought it). It used to be terrible. I finally installed my time-honoured spam rule for such disposable accounts: Anything with an @ sign and anything without an @ sign got turfed. Microsoft has improved it and I now use their spam rules instead. Hotmail is a disposal address. I use Hotmail for Facebook and other like entities because I do not want them to know who I am.

I have two Mail.com accounts. These are the ones that go back to 1996 when Mail.com was Four11.com. These use to be really bad as well, but I forward this mail into my one, only, and real Mail ISP locally to me. They have SpamAssassin running and I nuke all the trash and send it to /dev/null. However, Mail.com have become outstanding in recent years with superb spam control. They have a good quarantine facility, so if I get a false positive, I just release it.

My current Mail ISP is one I have used for about 10 years. In addition to SpamAssassin, they use grey listing (turf mail that cannot be traced back) and that works very well. It is hardware grey listing and you can have it ON (I do) or OFF, but no customization.

So I have lived through lots of spam, but I have paid attention to the issue and the services above (including Yahoo) are essentially spam free. I probably get 1 a month or something like that.  

Vendors that will not accept disposable addresses: VMware, Tamos, UltraEdit and Zabkat to name a few. It is just easier to filter spam and use my real address.

Interesting side note: I have been at this for so long that the name part of the email address is identical for all the above accounts.

... Thinkpads_User

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I agree, you have to have either lots of e-mail accounts and be careful which ones you use.

I don't blindly use disposable addresses with truly reputable vendors, and I have been a VMware user, and now a Fusion user for quite a while. I don't use a disposable address with investment accounts, bank accounts, Ultraedit (been with them since the middle of 1990s), don't know Tamos or Zabkat.

But, when I go to a site that wants an e-mail address in order to post something, or read something, or get a trial version of something, they take the disposable address just fine, that's why I have now about 100 such addresses, with a couple of catch-all disposables that are now being used by the SPAM coming from the DNC and more spam from CAIR, etc. Those I shuffle into special folders to read on their own.

I too use the same basic starting address for my e-mail, with accounts at Gmail, Yahoo mail, and my ISP, and for my domain names I have been using the same name for years and do get spam on it, but I don't respond because my ISP has a very nice way to deal with e-mail to my domain administrator account. His system verifies the sender, and he belongs to  a group that has a number of domains that can be used to determine spammers from legit e-mail senders. They have some tricks to stall the spam from going through, not rejecting mail, just telling the originator that things are busy, but hold on, be right with you, hang in there, be right back, etc., slowing down their systems automatically.

But I still stand by the mixed approach of keeping the primary e-mail OFF any messages, use it only for adminstration. Using a secondary e-mail for truly important accounts (I should include PayPal and Ebay in that list since they too don't distribute e-mail addresses). For others I'll create a throwaway e-mail address, use it to get past their e-mail fishing nets, and either dispose the address or ignore incoming mail once I get what I want.

Do you have Ultra Edit Compare as well as the Text Editor? When Ian first started, I would occasionally talk with him about features, but that was maybe 15 years go, mid 1990s when he had one of the only really good text editors for Windows. He still has the best one in my opinion, and now for the Mac.

Thanks for the input. I hope the asker makes a decision that will reduce the headaches.

Jeff
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>>> Do you have Ultra Edit Compare as well as the Text Editor?   <-- No, just the Editor, but I agree it is the best. I have UE V4 (1997) up to current V18 now. I use to talk to Ian but that was a while back.

I have VMware V1 (1999 on NT4 Workstation) up to the current V8 on Windows 7.

Tamos makes CommView (V2 in 2000 on Windows 2000) up to the current V6 on Windows 7 and SmartWhois.

Zabkat makes xPlorer2 which is now the best file manager.

Off topic, I know, but I thought I would fill you in.

.... Thinkpads_User
I can not afford to pay for Yahoo Mail.
It's the 4th of my 4 e-mail addresses in importance.
I'm getting junk messages in the inbox and spam box.
I've got 12 junk messages in the inbox and 389 in the spam box, only in the last 3 days.

I've had spam in my Hotmail box before. But it seems like my e-mail address being a target is only for a limited time. I might get 15 per day, and then in a few weeks, suddenly those are gone, as if they are targeting me for a specific amount of time.

But, in the Yahoo box I'm being bombarded.

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For $1.50/month the Yahoo account can get and send mail using all your other accounts, and if you follow some suggestions, you can kill the SPAM.

It's only $19 / year, and you get unlimited e-mail storage, like 500 disposable addresses, two primary e-mail, POP and SMTP for other accounts, excellent search mail engine, and none of the mail is stored on your computer so it can be accessed by you from any browser.

Skip 4 Big Macs a year and get a better mail service. <<grin>>

Jeff

PS: Your inquiry was about SPAM to your yahoo mail, hence the answers are about Yahoo mail. But I use my yahoo account to pick up mail from my other accounts, and to send mail as though it coming from those other accounts, but I only have to check in with a single e-mail site for all my e-mail addresses. Very convenient.

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