Latest Dreamweaver version without CSS?

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hi there

So Ive been using frontpage to design my pages for ages, its what I first learned and its what Im used to. Obviously frontpage is now dead and I have to switch to more modern and robust alternatives, problem is I have to start working right now, dont have time to learn CSS, which at first glance seems more complex than simple HTML. So obviously I thought of dreamweaver and bought the latest version, the CS5, quite expensive too, but seems  even colouring a font there is complicated and you need to create a new rule for it, instead of just simply selecting the part and clicking on the color panel. If such a simple task is so out of hand I cant imagine whats in store for more difficult jobs.

So basically Id like to work within a HTML environment using the most advanced and best software available. Im guessing that still remains dreamweaver but an earlier version. My question is, what would be the most modern version of dreamweaver that allows performing simple tasks and not so simple without using CSS, or whats the last version that isnt CSS-centric so to speak

Im using W7 and have a good understanding of HTML but  very little of CSS. Ill be making the transition to CSS, little by little, but for now I need something good with plenty of options but without CSS

thanks guys and gals
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Dave BaldwinFixer of Problems
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Commented:
I don't think you can get anything without CSS.  CSS1 dates from 1996 and CSS2 from 1998.  They've been working on CSS3 for a few years now.  The newest versions, HTML5 and CSS3, obsolete some of the old inline styling and require CSS to be used.

CSS is used for styling, defining element details, and positioning in ways that HTML by itself does not do.  HTML and CSS go together.

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but still you can make pretty nice websites without using or knowing CSS, I know because Ive done it.

My concern is being able to do the basic things like Id do in another web editor without having to learn an entire new language. While I dont dispute CSS importance and usefulness, when it comes to the simpler and quicker things seems more convoluted than HTML. So what I want is to be able to design the page without having to resort to rules every 5 seconds. What version of dreamweaver would allow me this while i learn the ins and outs of CSS?

thanks
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This page shows some of the history of Dreamweaver: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver  I don't know if there is a version of Dreamweaver that doesn't use CSS.  All of the currently supported versions will normally use CSS for styling.  You can probably minimize how you use it.
Jason C. LevineDon't talk to me.
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You would have to go back to Dreamweaver 4 (not CS 4...plain old 4) to get a version that doesn't try to use CSS for most formatting commands.  Have a look at older versions of CoffeeCup and Kompozer too...those aren't quite as robust and may give you what you are looking for. You also might want to consider a good text editor like Notepad++ or Programmer's Notepad.  Those will do code hinting and tag completion and let you work entirely in HTML without ever trying to force you to CSS.

>> but still you can make pretty nice websites without using or knowing CSS

You can, but you need to be very careful about declaring your doctype.  Make sure you keep it at HTML 3.01 so the browsers will validate your font tags and other elements which have been deprecated.  If you don't do this, the browsers will go into quirks mode and you may end up with a whole bunch of display issues.
Jim RiddlesPrepress/OMS Specialist

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I hear what you're saying, but I highly encourage you to learn the basics of CSS.  You don't have to be an expert on CSS expecially if you are using Dreamweaver.  There is plenty of built-in help for the program and lots of examples online to get you started.  If you are dead set against using CSS, then listen to what jason1178 had to say just above, and be sure to declare your doctype correctly.
Jason C. LevineDon't talk to me.

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Why the C grade?  It's not our fault you're asking for something that may not exist...

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