I've been asked to choose between Lotus Notes and Exchange.
As part of the process I'd like to know which of to 50+ application databases are actually used, how often and ideally by whom.
Is this possible?
We are using Domino version 8.5
Many thanks
D
Lotus IBM
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Sjef Bosman
8/22/2022 - Mon
Sjef Bosman
You could start with the log.nsf database, it contains usage information. Next to that, every database contains user activity information (when enabled).
Also, Where's the best place to start with xpages, I'm fairly good with php, sql, vb and javascript.
Sjef Bosman
It's in the 2nd link I added, it says in figure 1 in the bottom-left corner that there is a check box "Record Activity", and that "Any user with Reader access and greater to the database can read the User Activity log from the Database Properties box Info tab (click the User Detail button)".
Hmm, where to start with XPages? You need the Domino Designer, and it requires knowledge of:
- the Designer
- Notes and Domino
- databases and the object model
- web development
- JavaScript, dojo, Java and HTML
- Lotus Formula language and LotusScript
Note that your number of apps suggest you to be able to use Express licensing (less than 1500 users). This means that for a fixed cost per user, you can use as many servers as you want, providing backup and redundancy. Although the initial cost is a little higher than Exchange, this quickly turns around as software license maintenance is a lot cheaper for Domino versus Exchange. Also Domino uses a lot less hardware and people resources, giving even greater Return On Investment (or lower Total Cost of Ownership, whatever is your preferred measuremnt method).
Domino also offers you the advantage of having the server run on other platforms than Windows, offering you greater independence and security.
larsberntrop
Oh, and you can use the built in free Lotus Symphony to save on your Microsoft Office licenses as well... And the spreadsheet in Symphony suports more rows than Excel too..
@Lars: do you still recommend Symphony? I stayed with OpenOffice first, but now there is LibreOffice...
larsberntrop
What is great abou Symphony that it is integrated, one install. Les stuff to worry about.
And if you are so inclined, you can buy a humungous library of help videos from Lotus, also integrated into the client. Lovely! And Symphony has a LotusScript interface!
ThomasMcA2
Domino has both email and database support built into it. Keep in mind that you can't convert Domino databases to Exchange - they must be converted to Sharepoint and SQL Server. That's additional products, skill sets, licensing, servers, and integration overhead.
How many users do you have? How big are their mailboxes?
Also moving apps from Domino to dotNET (Exchange doesn't do applications, so you need extra hardware too) usually is so expensive that companies decide to keep Domino for the apps anyway. If the decision is based on facts and costs instead of feelings and emotions, it is usually the case that there is NO financial benefit in migrating.
detox1978
ASKER
Thanks for the tips. I've been really busy so not had the time to test the suggestions.
Several of the IT department are good in PHP/MySQL. So "if" we went with exchange, porting the databases would be a combination of SharePoint (out of the box functionality) and several PHP sites.
But to be honest, my biggest issue is working out how much value the user place on the databases. As most people say they hate notes, but i'm pretty sure there would be more support calls for missing features.
Exchange is currently just used for email, so several training courses and a bit of time to get used to the client should be the only headache.....
The way I see it, if the databases are heavily used - we will be keeping notes.
Although the company politics are more likely going to be my biggest issue. Gaining buy in for either to go will be the hardest sell. But I'm not going down the co-existence route, as it's just putting off the inevitable.
You can build your case using the comparisons that are available. Most Outlook "success stories" I've seen discuss the happiness of the users. Of course, the Notes UI may be crap, but is it worth $200 - $400 per user to migrate, just because "they" hate Notes? As if Outlook were that good, do some enquiries on the web, and I bet you'll find more Outlook errors than Notes/Domino mail errors (just mail of course, since that's all Outlook can handle).
If all they want is Outlook, activate IMAP on the Domino server and configure Outlook with IMAP. If they want just a different mail client, set up the Domino server for iNotes, so you can use any browser to read and send mails.
PS Isn't it funny that Notes was the first with its workspace (tabbed pages), there was nothing but scorn. And now, many an application embraced the tabs...
To assist you in choosing the best one for your environment:
- http://itcomparison.com/Mail/Exchange2k7vslotus8/Exchange2k7vslotus8.htm
- http://www.bleedyellow.com/blogs/dotdomino/entry/replacing_notes_here_s_how_it_really_goes_down4?lang=en
Also, don't forget to compare iNotes and OWA.
And if you're also thinking about SharePoint:
- http://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=82756109&gid=73034&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_nd-pst_ttle-cn&ut=0Tm2ubIQ6onR01
Last but not least: do not underestimate the power of XPages...