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need help setting up Hyper-V Server R2

Hi

I'm trialing two virtual server configurations (VMware and Hyper-V) on two different laptops to decide which is better for our office's use when I purchase a new server for running two Windows Server 08 Standard R2 guests on.

I can't work out how to manage (using my personal laptop) the Hyper-V server.
Here's some info that may help:
No it's not on a domain - it is going to be a Workgroup configuration.
I got Hyper-V 08 Server R2 insalled as the host, NOT Windows Server 08 R2.
I've got the Hyper-V manager installed on my laptop
I have enabled the firewall settings on the Hyper-V host console and created a user account that matches my laptop

What am I missing?


Also, on a separate note...  with either ESXi or Hyper-V, if I'm going to run two Server 08 guests, does that mean I need to buy two Server 08 licenses?
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Reece Dodds
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BusbarSolutions ArchitectCommented:
for the management check this article
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2012/03/28/10089348.aspx

for Hyper-v, you will need to buy 2 windows license, and you will need to buy them enterprise if you want to do clustering, the benefit that you will get the license to install 8 virtual machines of Windows STD or ENT for free using the purchased 2 licenses.
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kiwistagCommented:
Depending on your licensing structure (off the shelf or volume license) you can install 4 virtual sessions of Enterprise server from 1 physical license. It WAS the case that with Server 2008 R2 Standard it was 2 to 1 but they dropped that (for a while).
Server 2012 they have this again plus some (see Editions table, Virtualization rights at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2012 .

Hyper-V's standard manager is somewhat inferior to VMWare's ESXi's manager but each to their own.

Initially with Server 2008's Hyper-V Manager for desktop PC's (Win Vista/7) it was a complicated procedure to enable it. Newer installs have automated a lot of the configuration hassle. If you have issues finding assistance there are some sites (like busbar mentioned) which will guide you through and have automation scripts for the background config.
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Reece DoddsAuthor Commented:
OK.  I'll work through that.

What are the advantages of clustering?
If I don't want to use clustering, do I still need to buy two Server 08 Standard R2 licenses?  One for each guest OS?

Is this the same for the ESXi guests?
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BusbarSolutions ArchitectCommented:
for clustering if a host failed VMs will be hosted on the other host server.
you will need to buy at least 2 windows standard VM, for ESXi you buy per socket license in your case 4 (2 per server) and memory entitlement (each 32 GB memory will require a license).
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
You will need to use the Remote Administration Tools, Hyper-V Manager from another PC.

Use this script, to help.
http://archive.msdn.microsoft.com/HVRemote

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794756%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
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kiwistagCommented:
Not sure on the Server Standard 2008 R2 licensing for guest VM's on 2 different servers. As in my prior comment it was the case in New Zealand where they dropped the Standard Licensing for 2 guest installs so you're best to talk to a Microsoft Reseller about it.
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Reece DoddsAuthor Commented:
got it working!  Thanks busbar.  Your guide worked well, except I used the Hyper-V remote management tool rather that Remote Server Management.  Same same but different.

So far I'm still leaning toward the ESXi setup, but I need to test both out before committing to one and buying the server hardware.

We only want 1 host, but with 2 guests.  The guests will either be Server 08 Standard R2 (x2) - OR - Server 08 Standard R2 and Win7 Pro.
I have plenty of Win7 licenses, so will I only be needing to buy 1x Server 08 Standard R2 OEM license when I buy the hardware?
We want to do this as cheaply as possible, obviously, so will be wanting to use the free Hyper-V setup and the free ESXi setup.   Does this rule out clustering?

In regards to the Hyper-V guest... what is the best practice for storage locations of the virtual machine and the .vhd (hard disk file)?  Should I store these on a different hard drive or partition?  Should the directory they're stored in be shared or something for backup reasons?

What is a snapshot?

Sorry for the 101 questions, but this is the first VM I've built.
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Reece DoddsAuthor Commented:
ps.  it's only two host servers at the moment for testing.  Once I decide on either ESXi or Hyper-V, it'll only be one HOST with two VM guests.
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Reece DoddsAuthor Commented:
Hyper-V wizard
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BusbarSolutions ArchitectCommented:
that is a different question, you can't overlap questions please follow the EE rules and open a new question for that.
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kiwistagCommented:
Best bet for a lot of your questions is to read of the best practice guides for VM'ing. If you have the ability to have VHD disks over different Physical disks/arrays it can speed things up. Leave your Physical Server Hard Disk standalone and avoid having virtual hosting on it as it can slow things down (since your O.S will be the biggest user of that disk).
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