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Unable to clone disk

My os is Windows 7 Ultimate and I am trying to clone my primary drive to an internal 2 TB drive. When I try to create a system image with Windows Baskup and Restore, it fails after several minutes. When I try the same thing using Acronis 11, I get the same result. I ran checkdisk on the desintation drive and it passed. What am I doing wrong?
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rindiCommented:
Did you also run chkdsk  on the drive your cloning from?

What error messages do you get?

Also with the builtin backup tool of Windows 7, I have found it to fail if the small partition you boot from is too small, like the 100MB which is it's default size. I then zse the disk editor on the PartedMagic LiveCD to first reduce the size of C: by about 200MB and slide the partition so the free space comes before C: starts. Then I increase the boot partition size by that new space, and after that the built-in backup of Windows works. You can also use the CloneZilla utility on that same CD to create an image backup of your partitions:

http://partedmagic.com
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brightfarmAuthor Commented:
I didn't chkdsk the source drive but I will now. The primary drive and the desination drive are both 2 TB.  The primary drive has 1.03 TB of files while the destination drive has nothing on it. There are no partitions on either drive.
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rindiCommented:
There has to be at least one partition per drive, or windows wouldn't be there and you wouldn't be able to store anything on the destination drive.

Also, if your destination drive uses fat and not ntfs, your biggest storable file-size would be 4GB in size. If that is the case you will have to tell your imaging tool to split the backup files it creates into chunks not larger than 4GB. Acronis can probably do this, but I'm not sure about the windows tool.

You could convert the USB partition's file-system by opening a cmd prompt as Administrator and entering

convert X: /FS:ntfs

replace X: with the drive letter of the USB drive. This is non-destructive, any files on the external drive will stay if there isn't any problem. I you don't need to keep files you can also use diskmanagement to change the format.
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Darr247Commented:
I think you mean there is just one partition; you can't put a file system on an unpartitioned drive.

If the intent is to be able to replace the current boot drive with the new drive, I usually boot from a disk like Clonezille Live and use the Disk to disk clone tutorial from the Live Doc page (that's the 3rd one down from the top)... though it says 'to larger disk', it works fine to the same size disk, too.
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rindiCommented:
CloneZilla is included on the PartedMagic LiveCD I mentioned earlier, I find that CD better than just the CloneZilla CD, as it has more tools on it which are also useful. It also includes 2 other cloning tools if CloneZilla doesn't work (Partimage and G4U), although I haven't yet needed that.
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Michael-BestCommented:
Is your external drive new?
Go to disc management...
Format your external drive to NTFS (it will be FAT out of the box)
This should solve it.
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Darr247Commented:
I wasn't aware of that, rindi. I've never had any problems with the Clonezilla Live distribution, so hadn't sought out any other sources of it... and I suggested cloning directly from disk to disk, not to make an image backup of it.
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brightfarmAuthor Commented:
Thanks for correcting my statement that neither drive has partitions. Each drive has one partition.

Both drives are NTFS
Neither drive is new.
It is not my intent to replace one drive for another. I am try to create an image of my primary drive onto an internal drive.
Some of the suggestions offered are confusing to me.

Thanks
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rindiCommented:
Which are those suggestions?
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Imran SaeedIT Technical DirectorCommented:
The best option is to use HDD Raw Copy (link below) even though its time consuming but it ensures every single bit is copied across to the other hard disk.

http://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/
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brightfarmAuthor Commented:
I downloaded HDD Raw Copy and started the cloning process. When I got to the source window, I couldn't tell which listing was my source drive and later I has the issue with the destination drive. How do I identify which is my source and destination drives?
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rindiCommented:
We're still waiting for the description of what confused you in some of our previous solutions. If you post what confused you there we might be able to clear up the problems...
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Imran SaeedIT Technical DirectorCommented:
WELL if you look carefully at the Hard disk list shown in "HDD Raw Copy" the serial number is shown at the end of the model so from there you can differentiate between Source and Destination hard drives.
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brightfarmAuthor Commented:
My account was mistakenly closed and I have just now fixed the problem. Sorry for the delay.
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