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IBM Intellistation 6230 memory upgrade failed will not boot or perform POST

I'm upgrading my Father-in-laws old IBM Intellistation Pro M 6230.

After getting the SCSI drive MBR error fixed and reloaded the drive with a fresh copy of XP I started to upgrade the memory from 3 GB to 4GB.

I believe I got the exact same type of memory as the kind installed, but when I removed the two 512 MB RAM and replaced them with the 2 one GB sticks the system gave a beep code, (1?) but still booted.

 I saw that it did not recognize the new memory. The system showed only 2GB of memory. I took out the memory and reseated it. Now it will not boot at all and I got a 3-3-3 beep code. The IBM documentation says that this means "No optional memory in the system"

I then tried various configurations of memory (making sure to use matched pairs for DIMM slots 1 and 3 and 2 and 4 as they suggest). I even went back to the same configuration with the old memory. It will still not go into POST and there is no signal to the monitor.

On the motherboard there are two red LEDs that are next to the DIMM which the documentation says means it is a DIMM error.
There is also a red LED on the mother board that says system error LED.

Now just to complicate this, I was also adding a SCSI drive at the same time. When the system booted the first time (with 2GB and not 4GB) the drive was recognized but with no drive letter. That was something that I need to figure out too. I thought that might have contributed to the problem so I disconnected it.

I'm fairly technical, and I've been through the manual and searched online, I couldn't find out how to get out of this pickle.

If you have any other questions to help with figuring this out I'll answer them.
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DavidCommented:
Typical reason for that is the installer failed to observe vital anti-static precautions.  Were you wearing a $2.00 anti-static wrist strap?  Did you fail to grasp the metal part of the chassis with your bare hands before doing?

One can get away without doing this for years, but eventually most learn the hard way how easy it is to fry something.  I know I did.
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spbegleyAuthor Commented:
That might be the answer. Question. How do I fix it?

How do I determine if sticks are now bad or to reset the MB?
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DavidCommented:
You don't fix it.  You replace it. Sorry.
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spbegleyAuthor Commented:
Replace what? The mother board or the memory?
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DavidCommented:
Replacement motherboards on ebay for $62.00, since you probably don't have a memory tester, figure spending $100 for that as well.   Personally, since he's family, I'd suck it up, take blame, and offer to pay half on a decent replacement machine.

It's just the right thing to do -- and maybe your wife will make it up to you in a way that will make it oh, so worthwhile, if you get my drift ;)
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nobusCommented:
>>  The system showed only 2GB of memory   <<  this shows that you either have ram that is not compatible, or bad
test with 1 stick at the time if it works, and run a ram diag on it
i remcommend memtest86+ from www.memtest.org
or run it from the UBCD :
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/                              ultimate boot cd
http://ubcd.mirror.fusa.be/ubcd511.iso                        direct link UBCD
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lauchangkwangCommented:
Try the steps below:

Slot 1 = plug in 1GB memory stick (A) then try to boot. If successfull, ok, shutdown.

Slot 1 = plug in 1GB memory stick (B) then try to boot. If successfull, ok, shutdown.

Slot 1 = plug in 512MB memory stick (A) then try to boot. If successfull, ok, shutdown.

Slot 1 = plug in 512MB memory stick (B) then try to boot.

The above steps would help you to determine whether the RAM is compatible with the motherboard. The outcome might be some might not boot up.

Also, try to make like slot 1 & 3 using 1GB of memory, and slot 2 & 4 using the 512MB memory for your case.
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nobusCommented:
is that not what i posted just above?
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spbegleyAuthor Commented:
So, an update, I had already tried the multiple insertions of DIMMS and the error lights stayed on. I did not think I fried the chips or motherboard, but since I didn't have the tools to test them I started to think about replacing everything. But it just seemed to me the error was something else and I didn't fry the system.
So I unplugged the computer put all the memory back in their original place and I took out the battery. My goal was to find some way to "reset" the Motherboard.
Then I plugged in the power with the battery still unplugged. Voila! The system started going through POST again!
I got error messages about the time needing to be reset. I put the battery in and set the date and time. I got a chance to reboot to the OS or go to the previous last good configuration, which I did.
When it restarted I got some beep codes telling me about the battery.
Then I saw the Most beautiful sight in the world came up, the Microsoft XP logo!
After the System came back up I went to return the memory. The memory expert wanted to know what was wrong before he gave me the RMA.
I described how I thought I matched the memory exactly. 3200, DDR, 400, ECC
But the memory I got ALSO had REG listed after ECC. I didn't know what it was so the memory tech said that the memory I got from the that was REG stood for Registered and that I needed unREGistered memory.
Now, I know to check for the same speeds and ECC and If it is DDR, but I didn't know to check for REG or UNREG.
Then I did research into REG and UNREG.
It turns out that you can NOT mix them on many computers.  Apparently mine is an example of  a computer where they don't mix. I think somehow the memory locked up the Error LEDs on the system board and the DIMM LEDs. What I needed was some method to reset the motherboard. Apparently removing the battery worked. If it did not, I would have removed the boot block and put a BIOS CD in the drive with the hope that a new BIOS could help.  But luckily I didn't have to.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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nobusCommented:
i object, since i posted  that the problem was :
>>  The system showed only 2GB of memory   <<  this shows that you either have ram that is not compatible, or bad
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spbegleyAuthor Commented:
I determined the solution after reading the suggested answers, testing them and finding them wanting. The suggestion of trashing the system wasn't acceptable so I tried other solutions and hit upon one that solved the problem.
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