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website on linux

Dear Experts:

we are planning to desin our website from the scratch we are into real estate and property development and our IT are linux skilled how ever we  are outsouring the web services now the doubt is whether windows or linux for the website and also for the webhosting

I have recommended linux platform , pleas let me know is there any limitations in the look and feel of the website if we choose the linux for our website.

Is there any limitations on linux like images , video etc.

what are the advantages of going for the linux platform website , please suggest few lines this will help to present to the management.
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arober11Commented:
The OS does not effect the content you serve; essentially you have just asked:

I want to go shopping, what BRAND of car will allow me to carry my shopping home, will the COLOUR of the car effect what I can carry, and what are the advantages of a Ford over a Toyota, or BMW.

If you can throw in a Model (Linux flavour, and version), you may get a few cost / and or security benefits thrown back, else the only anser is that on the first line.
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DrDamnitCommented:
There are no limitation on Linux the platform. Google, eBay, Amazon.com, and half the internet run linux servers. And, since your programmers are skilled in Linux, maintenacne will be low cost and easy to do.

As an open source platform, there are no limits on the operating system. (Unlike Windows, which limits its operating systems depending on the version and license you buy).

The only advantage to a Windows server is when you have programmers who need to integrate software with a website. Windows server integrate neatly with Microsoft's Visual Studio system. However, that is an EXTREMELY individual case. And today, with the advent of easy to use APIs, that's not even really an issue anymore because people who write apps for phones and the like use simple API structures to access the website from their phone.

The Windows vs Linux thing can turn into a holy war. People will argue for one side or the other simply because they love that one side or they are used to it. I am a Microsoft certified guy. I program with Visual studio. I am also a PHP programmer, and run Linux.

I am equally proficient with both. I use Linux for web / servers. Windows for workstations. Microsoft Exchange for Email.

Apache (the web server software for Linux) is one of the MOST stable programs out there. PHP (one of the web programming languages used to build websites) is one of the most used web languages in the world. MySQL (the database system for Linux, which is used with websites forshopping carts, holding customer data, etc...) is used by huge, massive companies that make millions of queries per second. (In the United States, a large Cable provider named Comcast uses it). The list goes on and on.

The only reason I would ever use IIS (a Windows web server) is if I needed very specific integration with a Windows program that I was making. Other than that, I ALWAYS use and recommend Linux.

HTML and CSS are standards for coding what a website "looks like." and both platforms support it. It is really more of a browser problem than anything if something won't display correctly. For example, Internet Explorer (the Windows / Microsoft browser) does not like to be "standards compliant" and does not do CSS quite right in some cases. But, there are workarounds for that, and a good designer will be able to do this for you. It is not a limitation of the server, just the browser. And, in this case, it is because Microsoft doesn't want to do things the way everyone else (Firefox, Chrome, Safari, etc...) does it.  They are being silly and obstinate.

Does this help?
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Ray PaseurCommented:
The client-side technologies will determine the look and feel of the web site.  These are HTML, CSS and JavaScript. The server-side technologies (PHP+MySQLi) will produce the code that is sent to the client.  It makes no difference to the client which server-side technology you choose.  

Since your IT staff is already skilled in linux, I would go with linux, instead of beginning the project with a large learning curve!
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arober11Commented:
DrDamnit: "half the internet run linux servers" do you ever look at:  w3Techs, and yes Linux is bundled in Unix bucket. Also: "MySQL (the database system for Linux", have you seen: http://www.mysql.com/why-mysql/windows/  :0)
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DrDamnitCommented:
arober11:

OK... 2/3 run on *nix.

MySQL does have a port for Windows.

Having worked in both environments, I consider it a best practice to use MSSQL on Windows, and MySQL on Linux. (Postgres on Linux is also acceptable, but I am not proficient with it).
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arober11Commented:
There are many more toy's in that play box, and all have their own niche: Oracle, MongoDB, SQLlite, LDAP, DB2, Teradata....
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D_wathiAuthor Commented:
Thanks for all, it is really very much valuable information, i have choosen linux server since we are in real estate and property development, website content is one major part in additional look and feel plays a role hence can anybody recommend the best suited PHP or JAVA please suggest.
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arober11Commented:
Your back to asking which colour of car is best to carry your shopping :)  

Language has virtually no impact on what you can create.
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DrDamnitCommented:
The choice of PHP vs Java is more a question of your access to developers. If you have access to PHP developers, then choose PHP. If you have access to Java developers, then choose Java. I am a PHP/MySQL guy, but I can write Java too (although I reserve my Java writing for apps for phones more than anything else).

There are a plethora of developers for both, and I cannot give you a good reason to choose one over because for every massive PHP website I find, we can find another equally massive Java site. Neither is "optimized" your specific task. It's rather like asking which spoon in your kitchen drawer should you use to eat ice cream. They are different, but the same.

If you need someone to write it for you, I recommend outsourcing because you can get bids from different coders / companies and compare the cost of PHP vs Java. I have used this site for doing just that for years (very profitably): http://goo.gl/mT9tu
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D_wathiAuthor Commented:
Thank you very much sir, this satisfied all my techincal doubts. I will be choosing LAMP on ubuntu and hosting will be taken from rackspace or will look few more.
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D_wathiAuthor Commented:
would like close this post before that one final doubt , web developer says he will use CMS drupal , can anybody suggest me will this be a good choice, thanks
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DrDamnitCommented:
I have an affinity to Wordpress myself. Drupal is a bear to manage by comparison, but don't take my word for it. According to the 2011 Open Source Market Share Report, Wordpress:

1. Has the most installations
2. Has the most downloads

Of the one million websites that Alexa ranks, Wordpress runs 53.6% of them. Drupal only has 6.4%.

According to builtwith, Wordpress has a staggering 4,268,156 installations compared to Drupal's 307,926.

As far as support is concerned (getting someone to help you develop / manage), Wordpress has 19,215 specialists on eLance versus Drupal's 8,258. (You can throw a rock and hit a competent Wordpress manager / developer).

On the good news side for Drupal, Google ranks them equally with Wordpress.

But, on the bad news side, Wordpress is 5 times more popular with developers than Drupal, which means more free plugins, addins, and other useful stuff will be made for Wordpress than Drupal.

The report goes on to show graphs on "Social Bookmarking" as a function of the CMS, but I don't think that statistic is relevant, because social bookmarking is all about the CONTENT not the CMS platform from which the content came. Those trends to show Drupal as leading Wordpress slightly, but I think those stats show a relationship between sites that choose Drupal and those site's propensity to produce sharable content. This would make absolute sense when you consider that Wordpress is so easy to use, there are a good number of sites that install Wordpress for blathering about personal things (like a personal blog) that are not really sharable.

Source: http://www.waterandstone.com/downloads/2011OSCMSMarketShareReport.pdf
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