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how to make vmware for small business afforadable

I need to purchase new hardware and software for a new site we are setting up
We will have 2 site offices connected to each other via 10mb link with around 80 users at each site
I would like to use VMware with HA so I would have some server redundancy
I will probably be running no more than around 6 servers and not need any more than around 3TB storage
I was going to just use 1 big server with local disks attached but this would not give be redundancy if the server failed all my virtual servers would fail
Is there any sort of VMware in a box for small business that would say give me 2 hosts and a small affordable san?
Or some other solution
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Must it be VMWare?

Hyper-V in Server 2012 offers Replica - a feature that keeps another Hyper-V server in sync (within 5-15 minutes) of the "primary" host.  Hyper-V (the version that offers this is free or is an added role on Server 2012).

More info: http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=12147
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dougdogAuthor Commented:
because we need to get this installed asap we dont have the time to test this or the new features and have never tested server 2012 yet
we were going to go with vmware cause we know it and have been using it for years
if we did use hyper v what would we use for the san
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
So you didn't read my link?

Replica doesn't require a SAN.  If you wanted to do clustering, then you could and the SAN could be whatever you want it to be.  Windows permits more hardware than VMWare and also works with iSCSI.

You said you wanted this to be affordable for small business.  Replica is NOT real time replication but it's VERY close and for SMALL BUSINESSES (the VAST majority) it's more than sufficient for redundancy.  If this is a stock broker or some kind of business that ABSOLUTELY needs response time and high availability then you should make that more clear.  Such requirements are expensive (so the fact that you need to keep it "affordable" also lends to the supposition that this business doesn't require true high availability.

Should you spend a day or two learning Hyper-V?  ABSOLUTELY.  But if you've got VMWare experience, you know much of the basics.  If you didn't then I'd say you should spend a week or two testing and learning...
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dougdogAuthor Commented:
yes i did read it and yes that would cover dr
but i like the feature in vmware where if a host dies if reboots on the other host
dr would be if i faced a major issue like a site burnt down or flooded
but having just a server power supply fail or a board go would not need dr
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
VMware vSphere 5.1 now includes VMware Replication! (just like Hyper-V in 2012!) or you could use Veeam Backup and Replication. (no SAN needed either!).

Of you could use Acronis or Double Take HA products.

You could create a iSCSI SAN, using the virtual software that's available.
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dougdogAuthor Commented:
so what would you recommend for 2 hosts and a cheap san
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
HP P2000
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dougdogAuthor Commented:
is the vmware replication free like it is in hyper v
what happens if the server fails do i just power up the replicated vms and chnage their ip?
would it be wise to run 5-6 vms on a host
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
VMware Replication is not included in the free Hypervisor offering.

If in a DR situation, your Failover, which power's on VMs, and can RE-IP if required.

If you want to perform a manual process like you have stated you can, but it's normally automated.

5-6 VMs per host is low.
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dougdogAuthor Commented:
so are you suggesting the plan would be
1 host at my main site running hyper v with replica enabled with all my vms
1 host at my remote site with replica enabled
if my host at the main site goes off i just power on the vms on my remote site and change the ips
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Yes, that would work.
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