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KMS Question

Hello,

I'm in the process of researching setting up a KMS host to manage activations for my Office installations.

Because we want to keep all our machines on the same version of Office but we don't want to have to upgrade everyone right now, we've been buying Office Pro Plus 2010 VLA licenses and downgrading the installs to 2007 and licensing them with the MAK keys. It's getting to be hard to keep track of.

A couple questions...

- Can I use the KMS key associated with the Office license to activate the 2007 installs?

- Is it true that I'll only use the KMS key from one of my Office purchases to set up the KMS host and never add future purchases (keys) to the host?  The host doesn't keep track of the number of licenses vs. the number of activations?

- Is VMAT an add-on for the KMS host or is it a replacement for KMS or am I completely confused?

What I'd really like is to be able to add licenses as I buy them and get reporting on how many I have vs how many I need so I don't need to do something on paper that seems so well suited for a computer.

Thanks,
Paul
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Paul,

We have been using a KMS server for a few years now. We activate Windows Server, 7 and 8 and also Office 2010 and 2013. To be able to use the KMS server to activate operating systems there needs to be a minimum of 25 computers. This means that clients will contact the KMS server for activation. The KMS server will keep count of activations and will only activate all requests when the 25th computer requests activation. The KMS server will not keep count beyond 50. Regarding Office, there is a minimum count of 5 activations. On the 5th request all request will then be activated. It will not keep count beyond 10. The maximum current count will be twice the activation threshold. Even if you have not purchased enough licenses, the KMS server will still activate the requests. You need to be in compliance regarding your client licenses for Office in the back-office.

The key you need to use for the KMS server is a Office Pro Plus 2010 VL KMS key.

VMAT is a free tool provided by Micosoft that can help administrators perform licensing and activation related tasks. It helps you troubleshoot client activation issues and allows you to activate clients manually.

Hope  this helps.

IV
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Thanks for the quick reply...

So even if i install vmat i still need to install a KMS host?

Have you tried vamt 3.0?

Thanks again
You can use VAMT to update license status, install keys and activation. It's a manual process but if you don't have many clients this would work fine. The KMS host makes the whole process seamless and automatic. I use VAMT 3.0 for troubleshooting and support purposes. I let the KMS host server handle the activations.  

Here is a snippet from my VAMT.

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I really hate to be a pain in the a$$ and I don't want to take too much more of your time but I still don't think I'm on the right track.

I installed KMS on my server using:

"slmgr.vbs /ipk (my KMS Key)"

It said it's activated, I then did:

"slmrg.vbs -ato"

Again I got a positive response.

It's registered in DNS (along with several of my other servers) - Should I remove those entries from DNS?

When I do:

slmgr.vbs /dlv i get a pop-up window that says it's licensed as VOLUME_MAK_C channel but I don't get any counts.

What really has me concerned is I'm not seeing any events in Event Viewer.

I've only done 1 install of Office 2007 so I haven't reached the threshold of 5 but I should see something that indicates it's trying to do something, shouldn't I?

Thanks again,
Paul
Paul,

No problem. Reading over your post I realized that (and I had forgotten) that you are using Office 2007. Office 2007 uses a Volume License key, old style, which means when you activate it it's activated for good. Volume activation via KMS starts with Office 2010 and 2013. The clients have to contact the KMS server once every 6 months. For Office 2007 this is not required.

FYI, there should be a service DNS entry for the KMS server in the Forward Lookup Zone for your domain in the _tcp folder. It should be named _VLMCS.

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So basically, KMS isn't going to work with 2007?

Can I use VAMT 3.0 to distribute and keep track of the MAK keys?

- Install VAMT 3.0
- Add all my licenses to VAMT
- Push the keys to the pc's?
- Will VAMT then keep track of how many keys we have and how many are in use?

We don't have any problem manually insatlling the keys on the pc's when we install Office but it's becoming a chore to keep track of the licenses.

I'm just trying to make sure that I have a legal license for each install...

Thanks again,
Paul
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Thanks for all your help.  I'm still working on getting things worked out but you've pointed me in the right direction.

Paul