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Greetings,

I am setting up a 50 Mb point-to-point circuit (TW calls it a e-line or metro-e) between the office and the datacenter. I currently have a VPN between the two. I also currently have two distinct LAN IP networks (192.168.25 at the office and 192.168.35 at the datacenter).

Do I have to keep two separate IP networks with a point-to-point (metro-e) or can I extend the .25 LAN network from the office to the datacenter since it is a point-to-point?

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As long as this is a true Layer 2 offering, then the pipe is unaware of the layer 3 traffic inside it - and you can extend your LAN using the circuit.
For example, how are you communicating over that pipe right now? What's doing your Layer 3 switching/routing to get from one segment to another?
Best to check with your provider. Metro-e comes in a few flavors.
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thanks rharland2009. I have not set it up yet. I have a sonicwall NSA 240 at the office and a NSA 220 at the datacenter. they will handle the traffic between the two.  I will check with TW.

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Sure thing.
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I am still waiting to hear back from them. However, if it is possible, is it recommended or is there a better way to do it?

thanks again
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Not sure what you mean.
As far as a point-to-point, you don't really need devices on either end - because the two ends are only connected to stuff that you control! Now, I'm sure you could nail up a VPN if you want between the two sites, but there's just not much reason - except to protect your two locations from Internet-based attacks or malicious traffic - coming from the far end of the point-to-point - that might impact your LANs.
Since it also sounds like you have two /24 networks, you *could* extend both locations to use the .25 network without a problem. 512 possible hosts is not too bad for a single segment from a broadcast chattiness perspective, as long as your switching is good at either location.
Just my opinion.
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I meant is it better, or recommended, to segment into two IP networks and set up a new site Active Directory (already done as currently we have a VPN between the two), or is just one IP network acceptable, supported, best practice, etc.?

If I did go with one IP network for both the office and datacenter, how is DHCP and DNS affected? I already have a DC with DNS (it is a global catalog too) in the datacenter. I am putting our new exchange 2010 box as well as our terminal server at the datacenter as soon as our new storage comes in and is configured. one /24 network will fit us but since two are already configured, should we just leave as is?

This is what TW said:

The service is layer 2 to us and you can use layer 3 without issues. You do not need to segment the network if you do not want to do so.


Thanks again for your help
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That extra info helps.
If you've already got everything in place, then leave it.
If you went with one network, you'd be changing a couple of things re DHCP/DNS...you'd have one server for DHCP at one location or the other taking care of both locations. You'd have multiple DNS servers - maybe one at each location. You'd spend more time putting the networks together than it's worth. You've already got two segmented, well-designed LANs - who already talk successfully with each other! String up that point-to-point and leave the rest alone...it's a good thing.
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OK. thanks for the help. last quick question:

currently our sonicwall is the DHCP server at the datacenter. should I move that to a windows DHCP server since we'll be putting our exchange and terminal servers there permanently?

thanks again

here is another question I just posted in case you have any insight into this issue

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Misc/Q_27983903.html
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Re: DHCP - yeah, I'd flip that to your Windows box. It's a better plan long-term.
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