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Email setup Small Business Standard 2011 and other issues.
Posted on 2012-12-27
I am rebuilding an SBS 2011 machine that failed. Active Directory took a dive, emails, everything. Backups are essentially useless. I intend to give the backups a try after the reinstall but I'm not hopefull.
So, here are my questions:
1) As this was a retail location I couldn't rebuild the server during the Christmas season. So, emails for all accounts were setup on Godaddy with IMAP. All phones are now receiving emails through this account. Can I set up this rebuild to download the messages from Godaddy with IMAP? I'm thinking 'no' but I'm hopeful this can be done. If not, is there an alternative that would accomplish this same thing? I want to be able to keep the phones getting their emails, but as it is we aren't getting calendars (which of course would be solved with Exchange.)
2) Assuming that the backups are not going to be useful, I have a POS that has proprietary settings and programs that were associated with an AD account in the old domain. If I add the user with the same name and add the computer to the new domain, can I log into the new domain with the same credentials used in the old domain? Unfortunately because of this proprietary software, backing up the profile and restoring them under a different profile won't work.
Thanks in advance!
Panda
So, here are my questions:
1) As this was a retail location I couldn't rebuild the server during the Christmas season. So, emails for all accounts were setup on Godaddy with IMAP. All phones are now receiving emails through this account. Can I set up this rebuild to download the messages from Godaddy with IMAP? I'm thinking 'no' but I'm hopeful this can be done. If not, is there an alternative that would accomplish this same thing? I want to be able to keep the phones getting their emails, but as it is we aren't getting calendars (which of course would be solved with Exchange.)
2) Assuming that the backups are not going to be useful, I have a POS that has proprietary settings and programs that were associated with an AD account in the old domain. If I add the user with the same name and add the computer to the new domain, can I log into the new domain with the same credentials used in the old domain? Unfortunately because of this proprietary software, backing up the profile and restoring them under a different profile won't work.
Thanks in advance!
Panda
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>>"Can I set up this rebuild to download the messages from Godaddy with IMAP?"
No but you can use the POP connector and download e-mails using it.
>>"If I add the user with the same name and add the computer to the new domain, can I log into the new domain with the same credentials used in the old domain? "
You can use the same credentials but the server recognizes accounts by SID's (Security IDentifiers). A new user or computer account with the same name and password, in the same domain, is still seen by the server as a different user.
No but you can use the POP connector and download e-mails using it.
>>"If I add the user with the same name and add the computer to the new domain, can I log into the new domain with the same credentials used in the old domain? "
You can use the same credentials but the server recognizes accounts by SID's (Security IDentifiers). A new user or computer account with the same name and password, in the same domain, is still seen by the server as a different user.
Thanks for the response RobWill. Let me follow up with additional questions:
I don't need to use GoDaddy for the emails...it was the easiest, quickest solution. If I set the SBS machine with the POP3 connector, will the Exchange server pass the emails and calendar events to cell phones?
It doesn't matter if the server thinks it is a different account. I'm only concerned that when I login at the workstation if the profile changes when I login with similar credentials. I don't think migration wizard will save the information I need...any other suggestions?
I don't need to use GoDaddy for the emails...it was the easiest, quickest solution. If I set the SBS machine with the POP3 connector, will the Exchange server pass the emails and calendar events to cell phones?
It doesn't matter if the server thinks it is a different account. I'm only concerned that when I login at the workstation if the profile changes when I login with similar credentials. I don't think migration wizard will save the information I need...any other suggestions?
Active 3 days ago
SBS is intended to be used with SMTP mail delivery to Exchange. However it includes a POP connector which although it can be used indefinitely, is intended as a temporary solution while migrating from one mail solution to another. Thus you would set up the POP connector to download e-mail from Godaddy to the Exchange server. Next change your public DNS and MX records to point/deliver mail to the SBS rather than Godaddy. After DNS propagates to internet based DNS servers, 2 - 48 hours, mail will no longer be delivered to Godaddy. When you are sure of this you can disable the POP connector and Godday's mail services will no longer e needed. The POP connector will also download a copy of all existing e-mail to the Exchange server.
Smart phones should be configured to connect to Exchange and they will receive mail regardless of how SBS/Exchange receives it.
>>"I'm only concerned that when I login at the workstation if the profile changes when I login with similar credentials."
When you re-join the PC to the rebuilt server it will create a new user profile, usually the old name was user, and the new will be user.domain or user.000. This is a different account and will not contain any of the previous profile information.
>>"I don't think migration wizard will save the information I need...""
The SBS http://connect wizard will only import an existing workgroup profile, i.e. not a previous domain profile. There is a very nice little tool though that you can use instead of http://connect that will join the domain and import the existing profile, called ProfWiz. I have blogged about its use:
http://blog.lan-tech.ca/2011/05/19/sbs-and-profwiz/
Smart phones should be configured to connect to Exchange and they will receive mail regardless of how SBS/Exchange receives it.
>>"I'm only concerned that when I login at the workstation if the profile changes when I login with similar credentials."
When you re-join the PC to the rebuilt server it will create a new user profile, usually the old name was user, and the new will be user.domain or user.000. This is a different account and will not contain any of the previous profile information.
>>"I don't think migration wizard will save the information I need...""
The SBS http://connect wizard will only import an existing workgroup profile, i.e. not a previous domain profile. There is a very nice little tool though that you can use instead of http://connect that will join the domain and import the existing profile, called ProfWiz. I have blogged about its use:
http://blog.lan-tech.ca/2011/05/19/sbs-and-profwiz/
My apologies for not getting back to this question. I worked on the server during the holiday and forgot all about the question.
So what wound up happening was this: I started over from scratch, rebuilt the server then set up the domain users. Everything is running normally. Did not bother bringing in the old information from other users. Exchange functioning but havent set up the POP3 connector.
>>Smart phones should be configured to connect to Exchange and they will receive mail regardless of how SBS/Exchange receives it.<<
How do I configure the smartphones to connect to Exchange? Our servers public name is remote.domainname.net.
Thanks!!!
So what wound up happening was this: I started over from scratch, rebuilt the server then set up the domain users. Everything is running normally. Did not bother bringing in the old information from other users. Exchange functioning but havent set up the POP3 connector.
>>Smart phones should be configured to connect to Exchange and they will receive mail regardless of how SBS/Exchange receives it.<<
How do I configure the smartphones to connect to Exchange? Our servers public name is remote.domainname.net.
Thanks!!!
Active 3 days ago
>>Exchange functioning but havent set up the POP3 connector"
You don't need to configure, unless you want to bring in the existing e-mail from Godaddy.
>>"How do I configure the smartphones to connect to Exchange?"
You need to have a certificate installed on the SBS, see:
http://blog.lan-tech.ca/2012/05/17/sbs-2008-2011-adding-an-ssl-certificate/
Then it varies from phone to phone but basically choose add an Exchange account, when you enter e-mail address and password it probably fail, but then gives you the option to enter the server name remote.domain.com, user name, password, and specify SSL.
You don't need to configure, unless you want to bring in the existing e-mail from Godaddy.
>>"How do I configure the smartphones to connect to Exchange?"
You need to have a certificate installed on the SBS, see:
http://blog.lan-tech.ca/2012/05/17/sbs-2008-2011-adding-an-ssl-certificate/
Then it varies from phone to phone but basically choose add an Exchange account, when you enter e-mail address and password it probably fail, but then gives you the option to enter the server name remote.domain.com, user name, password, and specify SSL.
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