Lenovo x1 carbon versus the T430s screen - is the x1 inferior ?

Posted on 2013-01-05
Last Modified: 2013-01-21
Here is a comparison between the two best screen

Display type.  Subtle difference in wording - but is there a big difference?

14.0 Premium HD+ (1600x900) LED Backlit Display

14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display


ive been reading a few reviews of the x1 and Im surprised at what Im reading.

If you take the best screen available from the T430s and compare it to best from the x1 carbon what wins?

Did Lenovo go el cheapo on the screen spec on the x1?  Some people seem to think so BUT they dont say exactly what screen they bought.  

Here are some reviews from magazines and forums ....

X Carbon reviews ....

It's also blindingly bright, which again counteracts reflective conditions, but you do run the risk of snow-blindness if you work with it on maximum nit. However, the high resolution doesn't result in exceptional clarity, and we found the pixels were noticeable, especially at high brightness. This caused a faint shadowing around images and objects, which puts extra strain on the eyes.

Another review

The 14-inch, 1,600-by-900 screen is appealingly bright, although with a bluish cast.

Another review

As a longtime Thinkpad user, I eagerly awaited the arrival of the X1 Carbon, thinking it would be the best of the Ultrabook class.  Surprisingly, when the X1 finally came out, I was underwhelmed by the lackluster display (not an IPS panel and an almost but not quite 1080p resolution - what's up with that?),
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I read somewhere that the X1 screen has a film (non removable on top) that is the anti-glare component.

The screen on my Thinkpad T61p is not the best but I have lived with it for 5 years.

I have watched the Lenovo forums sometimes and the Thinkpads forum sometimes and I have not seen overly harsh reviews of the X1.

For me, the SSD drive is too small (even the big one), so I think my next machine will be a T430S.

.... Thinkpads_User

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Its a big investment and screen resolution is really important as it for a Doctor looking at xrays.

Odd that so many reviews are critical of the x carbons screens as Ive posted.

"X1 screen has a film (non removable on top) that is the anti-glare component"
wonder if thats making the screen no so good to people on the reviews Ive read.

> Personal question "Thinkpads_User" Do you work for Lenovo?
Im a fan of Lenovos by the way, Im just wondering if you are Impartial.
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If the screen resolution is critical, I would definitely get the T430. The investment is smaller and the screen is very good (my associate has one). The T430 is easily portable (4 pounds) and the X1 is almost as big as a T430. The X1 is light but not small. The X120e series is small (and light). Also, don't forget the T430 has a DVD writer. I am realizing that continues to be important to me.

I am a thinkpad user from a long time back (when they were IBM). My customers have never ever complained to me about suggesting they buy thinkpads.

My Thinkpad T61p (current laptop) has run:  XP Pro 32-bit, Vista Business 64-bit, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit and Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. It takes a really good computer to run that span of operating systems.

... Thinkpads_User
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The end user will be going for the T430s.  Im thinking the s is lighter?

The screen is critical and Im nervous about the x carbon screen reviews.  That extra skin on the top could be spannering things.

The EU is willing to carry an adapter for the ext video and a DVD drive separately and likes the look to the x carbon.   He takes flights a lot and uses the DVD for work approx 20% of the time.  

I think its not worth carrying all that and an all in 1 (t430s) is better even if its a bit heavier.

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Ive a T520 myself.
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The T430s and the T430 are both 14 inch machines. The s is not lighter - they are the same weight (within an ounce or so).

The T520 is 15 inch and is both bigger and heavier.

I think its not worth carrying all that and an all in 1 (t430s) is better even if its a bit heavier

This is very true and is one main reason why I am 90% sure I will go with a T430 instead of an X.

The EU ... likes the look to the x carbon.  So do I, but I want a workhorse machine and not "looks"  

My T61p is more like 5 pounds, so a T430 will save me some weight.  But I put my T61p, AC Adapter, high capacity USB stick and my Nokia USB internet stick in my nifty leather briefcase along with client files, and a calculator (finance work) and I can work from anywhere (and have done so, including across the ocean).

I do not want an extra DVD drive or USB port adapter (only one USB on the X1) or a video adapter.

To each his own, of course. But the T430 will have a better screen.

.... Thinkpads_User
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@fcek  - Is there anything else you need here?   .... Thinkpads_User

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Went for a t430s in the end.
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@fcek  - Thank you. I am 99% certain of going for the T40s myself within a month or so. It took me a while to figure out the difference between a T430 and a T430s. The T430s is a bit smaller than the T430 (same screen size) and almost a whole pound lighter. Good choice.

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It has a normal 2.5 hard disk drive as well.

In the event of a problem I can take it out and clone it / swap it with another hdd easy to source

This was for a customer who already has one (previous model for 2+ years and no probs )
so no surprises and no guinea pig.  

2K + is a lot to gamble on something untested IMO

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